You got things a little mixed up there alright. Windows for Work Groups 3.11 came out in 1993 to add networking support. You're probably thinking of NT 3.1 which was already a 32bit OS. WIN 3.1 came out in 1992 and was the successor to 3.0 as well as the first version to see a mouse used.
upgrading win 3.11 to xp.. would it work?
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You got things a little mixed up there alright. Windows for Work Groups 3.11 came out in 1993 to add networking support. You're probably thinking of NT 3.1 which was already a 32bit OS. WIN 3.1 came out in 1992 and was the successor to 3.0 as well as the first version to see a mouse used.
Apparently it is you who is mixed up. Windows for Workgroups 3.11 did not have a TCP/IP stack out of the box; MS released one later (in 1994 actually), although there were many third party stacks like Trumpet Winsock.
And Windows 3.0 had mouse support too, actually.
I'm not sure why I'm even taking the time to repond though since my original post was 100% accurate.
In response to Archangel, Windows 3.11 is still under copyright.
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Geoff
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I don't want to use 3.1 for a permanent OS, I just want to use it so I can bring back memories of using a computer in 1st gradeOmg why would you wonna use 3.1 again?
I would not even consider using Windows 95 again let alone 3.1
Archangel
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could you explain it a bit further?The easiest way to describe it is like running an OS within an OS in a window (though that isn't technically correct.)
If you check out Google Images for Virtual PC 2004 (MS's free virtualisation tool), you'll get the gist of what virtualisation is.
There are a couple of other better virtualisation tools out there like WMware server and workstation (which you've probably heard of), though VPC is a little easier to use.
Basically, the OS would just reside as a file which you can boot from.
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If you check out Google Images for Virtual PC 2004 (MS's free virtualisation tool), you'll get the gist of what virtualisation is.
There are a couple of other better virtualisation tools out there like WMware server and workstation (which you've probably heard of), though VPC is a little easier to use.
Basically, the OS would just reside as a file which you can boot from.
Download link
calumn
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I have 3.1 on floppys and I have 95 on like 12 floopys. I would install 3.1 but I dont have a computer to use it on. I would try it on my ancient laptop but i was putting more ram in it and i seem to have misplaced the battery and cable...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Bob
Anyone heard of that?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Bob
Anyone heard of that?
You should do a little reading. 3.1 was the first to incorporate the use of the mouse as part of the gui. http://www.computerhope.com/win3x.htm#01
There were also 4 releases of 3.1x in all. You had WIN 3.1, Windows 3.1 for Work Groups, WIN 3.11, and Windows 3.11 for Work Groups. Windows for Work Groups provided support for 3rd party dos based networks.
Your initial response was 100% accurate?
It's the other way round, 3.11 was the "predecessor" to 95 and 3.1 was full blown NT, followed by 3.51[/quote]
You just saw where Windows 3.1 came in 1992 ahead of Windows 3.1 for Work Groups, Windows 3.11, and Windows 3.11 for Work Groups. NT3.1 for work stations came out in 1993 as the first version of NT with support for client/server business applications. It was also the first 32bit version of Windows. And it wasn't NT 3.51 it was strictly NT 3.5 to be followed by NT 4.0.
All versions of Windows are copyrighted even long after they are discontinued. Microsoft will always own the rights to their property. Now as far as obtaining 3.1 have several floppies on hand. http://www.sirendesign.net/ernweb/redmond311.shtml
System requirements to install and run 3.1, (get ready for a surprise)
100% IBM compatible system
80386 or higher cpu
2mb of installed memory(that's right only 2mb not 2gb)
8mb of hard drive space
a floppy drive 3 1/2" or even a 5 1/4"
VGA
keyboard and standard corded mouse
Operating system Dos 3.1 or higher
Price = no longer available (like we didn't know that already.
)http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Windows_3.0_workspace.png
Check out that screenshot of Windows 3.0 and try to tell me it doesn't have mouse support.
The rest of your post is just confusing and demonstrates a lack of knowledge of the Windows 3.x and NT product lines, which are completely different code bases.
Apparently I'm the only one who is confused and needs to do more reading, which is ironic coming from someone who doesn't understand the different between a 32-bit kernel and a 16-bit file system [from various recent posts].
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Anyone for information on 3.x? http://www.computerhope.com/win3x.htm
You are going back quite a few years now. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_3.1
I trying to locate a site that didn't turn into a useless link for drivers. The only place for old versions and their installation floppies was at http://www.recycledsoftware.com/
That's the second time you've given that link in the whole 3.0 mouse issue. If you were reading it correctly, you'd have realised that it's listing the differences between 3.1 and MS-DOS, one of them being that it has a mouse and GUI. It doesn't say anywhere that 3.0 doesn't support as mouse because it does, as evidenced by the Wikipedia screenshot I posted. I think we can lay that topic to rest now.
Not always. Copyright for corporate work (i.e. not of a single person) expires 95 years from the date of publication in the U.S., meaning Windows 3.1 (1992) will enter the public domain in 2087.PC eye said:
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The mouse was actually around longer then Windows. http://sloan.stanford.edu/MouseSite/MouseSitePg1.html
http://www.bergen.org/AAST/Projects/Engineering_Graphics/_EG2001/mouse/history.html
The real problem wasn't that you couldn't use a mouse in the early versions of Windows if you didn't have any 3rd party drivers for them. 3.1 was the first to see a universal driver included along with the OS.
http://www.bergen.org/AAST/Projects/Engineering_Graphics/_EG2001/mouse/history.html
The real problem wasn't that you couldn't use a mouse in the early versions of Windows if you didn't have any 3rd party drivers for them. 3.1 was the first to see a universal driver included along with the OS.
Indeed. Unix's X Server, first released in 1984, beat Windows to a mouse by almost a decade.
tlarkin
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This is a joke right?
Lamilia
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well I have been awake for quite a long time now so maybe the wording isnt right. ok if the minimum requirements get higher with every new windows OS that means it takes more to run them yes?...oh wait yeah the whole 16 bit thing and windows is 32..
