Oh I dunno then thanks for the link it's hard to compare to my 6800Gt I got it water cooled to 435Mhz and can run the latest games at a mix of medium and high settings at 1280 x 1024. I also get good performance because I dont use antialising no nvidia cards below series 8 support AA and HDR at the same time. Only Crysis gives it a hard time at over medium settings but I dont like that game anyway. The big worry is the Eve online graphics overhaul next month I'm already getting 40 - 70 fps at 1600 x 1200 res with it all on full so I hope it only drops to 30fps.