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500r420

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I am fixing up an old computer for use in a summer home, and I decided it was too old to work with so I switched in the slot 1 mini atx board with a 370 pin socket and 933 mhz processor. The problem is, its a Sony, and the psu is right on top of the cpu (a tad more than an inch away) and sucking up (as in the opposite direction of the cpu). Both the cpu and psu fans are real weak (though the edit: cpu is weaker). So will it work fine? Should i divert airflow with cardboard and hotglue or just hotglue a 90mm fan on somewhere? Im pretty new to the whole airflow thing (and working with computers in general)

Oh yeah, the psu is far from powerful, it says 90w sustained on side but doesnt list max. Im pretty sure the cpu is 133 fsb, 933 core, 1.65 volts, 256 cache on die.

Also, I took off the heatsink cause i was curious and the connection was thin, soft, dry, scratched piece of metal. Is this a one time attach, or will it work fine reattached (the heatsink clip holds with about 10000 lbs of force)

thanks all
 
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From reading this with just a quick glance there are some things to point out here right away. Cardboard and glue are certainly out of the question for use in any pc! With the removal of the heat sink from the cpu you also broke the bond that the thermal compound had between the sink and the cpu chip. Although this by your description is an older low powered system you will still need to reseat the heat sink after cleaning the probably dried and deteriorating original thermal compund off of both the cpu and sink itself. A good drop of some quality brand thermal compund like Artic Silver 3 or 5 should remedy that situation fast.

The thing that would be the important item to include is the exact make and models of the hardwares like the model Sony board and some other general information on the system itself. This will help in seeing what can be done with the existing system. Besides a larger power supply for the new board having need there, the additional info can help provide better advice.
 
Reapply some thermal paste to it (clean the old stuff off first), a P3 shouldn't get so hot that it needs a high powered fan or excessive cooling. A lot of people can get away with a heatsink and a ducted case fan.

If you are worried about it, put a fan somewhere where it can direct air over the CPU
 
It would also depend on the type of case if AT, flat top desk model, or a standard atx model as far as fitting the extra fan to cool the cpu. The best step at this time is to blow out all dust and dirt from the fans themselves to see if they are binding up from debris or they are worn. You would go through the entire case as well with an air cleaner(can of compressed air: low cost item at most retail stores-pc accessories).
 
Thanks for your advice, all of you. Ok PC eye, Ill put away the hammer and hacksaw and spend some cash to get some better stuff.

the case is a micro atx just like the motherboard

the old sony board is a slot 1 and wont run xp even with a bios update

the new one i salvaged came with the cpu installed, its a micro-atx pga socket 370 compaq
i dont know how to check the name
the case did not make it

ill spend the cash on some compound if i need it, but this is a low to no budget comp

as i said, there is no gloop on the cpu
it instead has an ultra-thin piece of shiny metal between the heatsink and the cpu

the problem is that the psu is sucking up and the cpu is pushing down, and they are right on top of each other
system boots fine but no os installed

just removed 16 lbs of crap from the fans and case, blew into all the vents, and made a big mess
the fans are spinning fine
 
Did you find any buried treasure in all that stuff you cleaned out of the case? The Windows 9X or Linux distros are what would work for an OS just to see it run. The first pullout cpus saw the metal heat strip instead of compound. The fan on the heat sink should be blowing away from not towards the cpu. That is done to draw heated air off of the sink itself. The fan in the supply is an intake fan to draw air through to either an exhaust fan or vents on the rear to keep temps down on the supply itself. Unless you reversed fan directions the air flow is in the right direction.
 
wow, thats a relief, and a new thing learned
i was actually wanting to get xp going on this guy
ive got 2 128 pc133s ready and a 5400rpm drive
theres lots of open power in the case
is this going to cause any problems?
 
On that system there a good match of 256mb simms should work well with the old stuff like 95 or 98 if not some of the older Linux versions where cpu power and large caches on video cards is an issue. Go to some place that still sells old dos games even or download some Linux stuff and you will get by with that. Forget the new things out though. XP won't without the needed updated drivers for the board itself like memory controllers, VMbus, USB 2.0, and a short list of other things. Even 98 would run slow with 512mb on it. But that would allow some more recent softwares a chance.
 
500r420 said:
hm, you think so?
what if i invested the $35 or so in two 256 chips?
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check my thread, i have alot of RAM you might be interested in....

also a steped up processor to what you have now (1000MHz insted of 933)
 
MadModder said:
XP would run on that machine just fine. My laptop is a P3 1GHz w/ 256MBs of PC133 RAM and that runs XP Pro without a hitch. Unless I missed something in the post, there's nothing wrong with running XP on your system!

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d58/Velouriaaaa/xp-stats.jpg

That's running 3 Firefox tabs and Winamp.
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The problem isn't getting XP to go on. XP will run on a Pentium II 233mhz system with only 256mb of PC100 memory installed. The problem would be with getting updates for the original hardwares like a bios update, updated drivers for any onboard video and sound. To effectively run XP with the current system board you would most likely need generic drivers at this late date.
 
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