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fultz

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Well, I've been looking around for cheaper options and the better value on a pretty high-end gaming machine and I have a few questions...

Is there a difference in performance between the PCIe16 version and AGP8x Version of the nVidia GeForce 6800GT 256-bit 256MB Cards? If so, what is the major difference?

I am definately going with AMD but the system I can get for this price with these components has an AMD Athlon 64 3700+ 1MB Cache 1600MHz FSB 754 Pin, Is this processor going to perform worse or better than the AMD Athlon 64 3500+ 2000MHz FSB 512kb Cache 939 Pin Chip?

This motherboard - The Asus K8V-SE doesn't have PCIe slots so my graphics card is going to have to be AGP8x or im going to have to look at a different system.

This is the configuration and the price trailing below it, let me know what you think and remember, after this im not going to be able to afford another pc for around 3 years, upgrades yes, new pcs no. There are plenty of pcs in the sea and since my budget is 1800 or so without monitor I think I should be able to get a good computer.

AMD Athlon 64 3700+ 2.4G 1MB Cache 1600MHz FSB Socket 754
Thermaltake Venus 12 AMD Athlon Copper CPU Fan
ASUS K8V-SE Deluxe (64BIT, K8T800, 8XAGP, DDR400)
Raidmax Scorpio 868 Black Mid-Tower 420W USB
1GB PC-3200 DDR Ram @ 400MHz
250GB Western Digital Serial ATA 7200RPM 8MB HDD
250GB Western Digital Serial ATA 7200RPM 8MB HDD
Sony DD2A-B2 16x Dual Layer Black DVD+/-RW Drive
1.44MB 3.5" Sony Floppy Disk Drive
256mb nVidia GeForce 6800GT 8x AGP TV/DVI
Creative Soundblaster Audigy 2 ZS Gamer 7.1
10/100T Intergrated Realtek Lan/Internet Adapter
Conexant v.92 56k PCI Modem with Voice and Fax
A-Shape Wireless Keyboard and Optical Mouse Set
 
fultz said:
Is there a difference in performance between the PCIe16 version and AGP8x Version of the nVidia GeForce 6800GT 256-bit 256MB Cards? If so, what is the major difference?
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There is no difference between todays agp card and pci-e cards. The reason you would go with pci-e is for future video cards and upgrades. It seems the direction the video card market going is agp going to disappear.

fultz said:
I am definately going with AMD but the system I can get for this price with these components has an AMD Athlon 64 3700+ 1MB Cache 1600MHz FSB 754 Pin, Is this processor going to perform worse or better than the AMD Athlon 64 3500+ 2000MHz FSB 512kb Cache 939 Pin Chip?
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I would go with the athlon 64 3500+ 939 sockets. I think more important then the extra 400HT is that socket 939 boards seem to be better motherboards. for example I dont think there any 754 boards that can run ram in dual channel ram.
 
Thanks, those are the same answers I figured except for the motherboard response on the amd chip, thanks for clarifying though!
 
or example I dont think there any 754 boards that can run ram in dual channel ram.
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No there's not. This has nothing to do with the motherboard though, the memory controller is on the CPU die which is why the 939s have dual channel and the 754s dont (count the pins, 184 per memory channel + 1pin for HTT).
 
Cromewell said:
No there's not. This has nothing to do with the motherboard though, the memory controller is on the CPU die which is why the 939s have dual channel and the 754s dont (count the pins, 184 per memory channel + 1pin for HTT).
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well same results. It still a reason to go with socket 939.
 
Cromewell said:
yeah but telling you why its the way it is :)
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oh I sorry I did not mean for it to come out like it sounded. I acturally thankful for your post. I like learning all I can about computers. Even thoe I should of known that because I already knew the ram controller was built in to the chip. I just did not put 2 and 2 togeather.
 
Is there a difference in performance between the PCIe16 version and AGP8x Version of the nVidia GeForce 6800GT 256-bit 256MB Cards? If so, what is the major difference?
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On top of the arm and leg I think you have to put an eyeball deposit on the PCIe version

I am definately going with AMD but the system I can get for this price with these components has an AMD Athlon 64 3700+ 1MB Cache 1600MHz FSB 754 Pin, Is this processor going to perform worse or better than the AMD Athlon 64 3500+ 2000MHz FSB 512kb Cache 939 Pin Chip?
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Out of the box, it'll be a bit worse (no more than 5% prolly) ... OCd the margin will prolly drop to 1-2%

since my budget is 1800 or so without monitor
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Ya not a problem there

I dont think there any 754 boards that can run ram in dual channel ram.
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Its not a feature of the mobo since the memory controller is now on-die .. no socket754 cpu will support dual-channel.

well same results. It still a reason to go with socket 939.
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Depends on the price differential and willingness to OC.

get pcie there so much better than agp
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I think ive seen about five straight posts of yours where you just make an out-of-the-blue comment with zero basis and in some case zero feasible logic behind it. Welcome to the facts:
PCIe cards are not better than AGP and as such they cannot be "so much" better

and get skt 939
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You got a reason for this or is this a knee-jerk reccomendation/comment? ;)
 
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