a good budget system?

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X24

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ok, i might decide not to go through with my mini-itx plans, and my graphics card upgrade to my parents computer, and if i decide not to, does this pc sound good for my gaming machine?

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I am wanting it to be easy to upgrade once new games start coming out, thats the only problem i have. socket 754 only alows for a 3700+ right now, and agp is kinda dying down.

granted that it will still be a few years before i run out of upgrade options, do u think it would be better to drop down a hundred or so more to get pci and socket 939?
 
yes get pciexpress and get socket 939 i dont think they make the 754 anymore and get the amd 64 3200+ you will be able to upgrade in the future
 
POWMAX PSU STINK!!!!! I got the 400 watt one cause it came with my case, it's really light, like lighter than my 250 watt one and it only has 5 molexes..and the reviews say that it burns out in like a month.
 
liuliuboy said:
POWMAX PSU STINK!!!!! I got the 400 watt one cause it came with my case, it's really light, like lighter than my 250 watt one and it only has 5 molexes..and the reviews say that it burns out in like a month.
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thast what you get for using psu's that come with cases. plus, 1 bad experience doesnt make it a bad company.

its quite a good psu x24, it has a nice ampage on the 12v rail :), although more wouldnt be a bad thing ;)
 
um, thats all the ram i could afford, i was looking for a $50 mobo, and i got like 3 dollars off that mobo becuase the video card i picked out.

yes, i picked that psu becuase it had the best amperage on the 12v rail for the price.

again, this is just a budget system, if i had more money, of couse i would go with better mobo, processor, ram, graphics psu, ect ect!
 
ok, few questions.
first off, does anybody else have any ideas if i can improve this staying within the same budget +/- $25

also, how would that X700 compare to my geforce go 6800? (i9300)

one last thing, is it worth like $20 to move to a 3000+ clawhamer?
 
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also, how would that X700 compare to my geforce go 6800? (i9300)
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go with the GeForce 6800, im pretty sure its a higher chip, any1 correct me if im wrong.

one last thing, is it worth like $20 to move to a 3000+ clawhamer?
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If you have the cash go for it, if the extra 20 is better off in your pocket, stick with the 2800.
 
um, i met which would be the better preformer, the desktop X700, or my laptops go 6800, also, i figured out that the 3000+ was a mobile processor
 
ASYS 222L 4JA Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case 450W ATX12V Power Supply-30
AMD Athlon 64 3000+ Venice Socket 939 Processor-146
CHAINTECH VNF4/Ultra Socket 939 NVIDIA nForce4 Ultra ATX AMD Motherboard-83
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SAMSUNG SpinPoint P Series SP1604N 160GB 7200 RPM IDE Ultra ATA133 Hard Drive-72
eVGA 128-P2-N368-TX Geforce 6600GT 128MB GDDR3 PCI Express x16 Video Card-169

Total $547 or if you get x700pro SAPPHIRE 100595L-BL Radeon X700PRO 128MB GDDR3 PCI Express x16 Video Card-123 , total would be $501. All prices are newegg.


Future upgrades, first arctic silver 5. I'm assuming also on this build you have windows, monitor, keyboard, mouse, and speakers. Than upgrade second stick of memory. Followed by either gfx card or processor. Than sound card if needed. Case was taken from your post. No shipping and handling charges are included.
 
A upgrade to a 6800 would be beyond your budget as itll be $230 at newegg, which would be a total of $608 for the build. Which is $506 +$102. Which is > than your +25 budget. Besides the 6800 is the goversion, and as i don't know the specs might not be able to beat a 6600gt.
 
ok, how did that turn out cheaper then mine? no clue.....

and i just wanted to know how a desktop X700 would compare to my LAPTOP GO 6800
 
on laptops the graphics are nearly always shared with the physical memory, so personally i would prefer the x700 on the desktop/
 
X700 doesn't support shader model 3.0 and has only 8pipelines while 6800 has 12pixel lines and has shader model 3.0 support. THe x700pro is also 128-bit, while the 6800 is 265-bit. However, 6800 has DDR memory, but the x700 has GDDR3 memory. Based on benchmarks, the 6800 is way better than a x700pro. My price is maybe cheaper because it doesn't include tax,shipping/handling. Or you're just buying it from a different place.

ROger
 
yes get pciexpress and get socket 939 i dont think they make the 754 anymore and get the amd 64 3200+ you will be able to upgrade in the future
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S754 isnt dead quite yet :)

POWMAX PSU STINK!!!!! I got the 400 watt one cause it came with my case, it's really light, like lighter than my 250 watt one and it only has 5 molexes..and the reviews say that it burns out in like a month
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It's not the best but for the price it's more than decent
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also, how would that X700 compare to my geforce go 6800? (i9300)
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6800 class card is superior (assumign you got the 256bit model)

one last thing, is it worth like $20 to move to a 3000+ clawhamer?
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For $20, i'd say so

on laptops the graphics are nearly always shared with the physical memory, so personally i would prefer the x700 on the desktop/
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Shouldnt be for the 6800Go

@ilovefishsticks
Lets stay on topic :)
 
X24 said:
um, i met which would be the better preformer, the desktop X700, or my laptops go 6800, also, i figured out that the 3000+ was a mobile processor
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probably the laptop 6800. the 6800 go has shader 3.0, more transistors and twice as many pixel pipelines than the x700 desktop card.
 
probably the laptop 6800. the 6800 go has shader 3.0, more transistors and twice as many pixel pipelines than the x700 desktop card.
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X700 Mobility
Code = MR X700
Pipes = 8x6
Clocks = 350/350
Address Size = 128bit => 11.2GB/s
According to ATi, X700 Mobility clock speeds are vendor-specific.

X800 Mobility
Code = M28
Pipes = 8x4
Clocks = 400/400
Address Size = 128bit = 12.8GB/s
Address Size = 256bit = 25.6GB/s

6700Go
Code = NV41m
Pipes = 12x? (guessing 12x5)
Clocks = 350/500
Address Size = 128bit = 16GB/s

6800Go
Code = NV41M
Pipes = 12x5
Clocks = 300/300 and 300/600
Address Size = 128bit = 9.6GB and 19.2GB/s
Address Size = 256bit = 19.2GB and 38.4GB/s
 
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