Advice for PC build please

[MandyPepe]

Hi,
New to PC specs. Looking to buy 14 year old son a gaming computer that will last several years without struggling with any new game releases. Been quoted this one £1300. Can anyone say if this will run all games at at least 60fps 1080p with minimum frame drops at highest graphics?

SHARKOON VG4-W GAMING CASE (Green LED)

Processor (CPU)

Intel® Core™ i5 Six Core Processor i5-8500 (3.0GHz) 9MB Cache

Motherboard

ASUS® PRIME B360M-A: Micro-ATX, DDR4, LGA1151, USB 3.1, SATA 6GBs

Memory (RAM)

16GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 2133MHz (2 x 8GB)

Graphics Card

8GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 1070 - DVI, HDMI, 3 x DP - GeForce GTX VR Ready!(Pre-Order Only)

1st Hard Disk

120GB KINGSTON UV400 2.5" SSD, SATA 6 Gb (550MB/R, 350MB/W)

2nd Hard Disk

1TB SEAGATE BARRACUDA SATA-III 3.5" HDD, 6GB/s, 7200RPM, 32MB CACHE

DVD/BLU-RAY Drive

NOT REQUIRED

Power Supply

CORSAIR 450W VS SERIES™ VS-450 POWER SUPPLY

Power Cable

1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)

Processor Cooling

Super Quiet Titan DragonFly Heatpipe Intel CPU Cooler

Thermal Paste

STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING

Sound Card

ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)

Wireless/Wired Networking

WIRELESS 802.11 AC1300 867Mbps/5GHz, 400Mbps/2.4GHz PCI-E CARD

USB Options

MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS

Operating System

Genuine Windows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence

Operating System Language

United Kingdom - English Language

Windows Recovery Media

Windows 10 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Supplied on USB Drive

Office Software

Microsoft® Office Home & Student 2016 (1 Digital License)

Anti-Virus

BullGuard™ Internet Security - Free 90 Day License inc. Gamer Mode

Browser

Microsoft® Edge (Windows 10 Only)

Warranty

3 Year Standard Warranty (1 Month Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour

Thank you.

 

[johnb35]

A few things here.

1. Do not get the 450 watt psu for this build. Get at least a 550 watt unit as you are wanting the 8gb version gtx 1070 video card. And make sure its a decent brand. The vs series is pretty low from Corsair.
2. Highly recommend getting a 250 gb SSD drive as he will run into space issues on the 120gb very quick.
3. You don't want to be gaming on wifi unless that is your only option if you'll be too far from router. Might have to move router or run ethernet cable from pc to router.
4. Also recommend getting a dvd drive as some games will need to be installed by cd/dvd.

 

[Darren]

A few things here.

1. Do not get the 450 watt psu for this build. Get at least a 550 watt unit as you are wanting the 8gb version gtx 1070 video card. And make sure its a decent brand. The vs series is pretty low from Corsair.
2. Highly recommend getting a 250 gb SSD drive as he will run into space issues on the 120gb very quick.
3. You don't want to be gaming on wifi unless that is your only option if you'll be too far from router. Might have to move router or run ethernet cable from pc to router.
4. Also recommend getting a dvd drive as some games will need to be installed by cd/dvd.

Agreed on first 2. WiFi is frequently fine, but wired is obviously preferred. I can't remember the last time I installed a game from a disc, it's been years for sure.

 

[MandyPepe]

Thank you both for your help. Really helpful

 

[Cisco001]

RAM - it may worth getting faster RAM
120GB SSD is a bit small.
they have stock on GTX 1070 ti

 

[Cisco001]

£1332

Case
InWIN G7 BRUSHED EFFECT DARK GREY CASE

Processor (CPU)
Intel® Core™ i5 Six Core Processor i5-8400 (2.8GHz) 9MB Cache

Motherboard
ASUS® TUF B360M-PLUS GAMING: Micro-ATX, DDR4, LGA1151, USB 3.1, SATA 6GBs

Memory (RAM)
16GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 3000MHz (2 x 8GB)

Graphics Card
8GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 1070 Ti - DVI, HDMI, 3 x DP - GeForce GTX VR Ready! (Special Offer)

1st Hard Disk
1TB SEAGATE BARRACUDA SATA-III 3.5" HDD, 6GB/s, 7200RPM, 32MB CACHE

1st M.2 SSD Drive
250GB WD Blue™ 3D NAND M.2 SSD (up to 550MB/sR | 525MB/sW)

DVD/BLU-RAY Drive
24x DUAL LAYER DVD WRITER ±R/±RW/RAM

Power Supply
CORSAIR 550W VS SERIES™ VS-550 POWER SUPPLY

Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)

Processor Cooling
INTEL STANDARD CPU COOLER

Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING

Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)

Wireless/Wired Networking
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT (Wi-Fi NOT INCLUDED)

USB Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS

Operating System
Genuine Windows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence

Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language

Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account

Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft® Office® 365

Anti-Virus
BullGuard™ Internet Security - Free 90 Day License inc. Gamer Mode

Browser
Microsoft® Edge (Windows 10 Only)

Warranty
3 Year Standard Warranty (1 Month Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)

Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)

Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 8 to 10 working days

 

[Darren]

Only other thing I'd say is maybe think about a slightly better air cooler, those stock ones can get pretty noisy underload. Otherwise looks good.

 

[johnb35]

Agreed on first 2. WiFi is frequently fine, but wired is obviously preferred. I can't remember the last time I installed a game from a disc, it's been years for sure.

Another reason to get a dvd drive is for when you need to run memtest or a hdd diagnostic test, they usually only run from cd. Might as well get it, you never know when you may need one.

 

[Darren]

Another reason to get a dvd drive is for when you need to run memtest or a hdd diagnostic test, they usually only run from cd. Might as well get it, you never know when you may need one.

I mean sure they don't hurt but they're pretty obsolete at this point and I'd take the 20 bucks over having a drive anymore. More people have flash drives laying around to burn that kind of software than CD's anyway.

 

[MandyPepe]

Thank you.

Can I ask please? Which is the best to go for - i5 8th edition or i7 7th edition. Prices seem cheaper for i7 7th editions with other similar components but is this because they’re not as powerful?

 

[johnb35]

I7 8700 is 6 core 12 thread while I7 7700 is only a 4 core 8 thread. Thats why the price difference. If you want 8th generation you can only use 300 series motherboards.

 

[MandyPepe]

Thank you. What’s the difference though with i7 7th edition and i5 8th edition ? We’ve been quoted for the i5 8th edition, but looking around the i7 7th edition seems cheaper, but is that because it’s not as good?

 

[johnb35]

Which specific I7 are you looking at?

 

[MandyPepe]

We’ve been quoted for i5 8th gen and I’m just looking at others and noticed i7 7th gens seem much cheaper. I think there’s various ones? (You have probably noticed I don’t understand computers)!!

 

[MandyPepe]

This one for example. A few hundred cheaper than the i5 8th edition

Key Specification
Processor manufacturer Intel
Processor Model Intel Core i7
Processor Number 7700
Graphics GeForce GTX 1070
RAM Memory 16GB
Hard drive capacity 2TB
Operating System Windows 10
Optical Drive No optical storage
Manufacturer Warranty 3 year warranty
Form factor ATX
Motherboard form factor Tower Desktop
Processor
Processor Model Intel Core i7
Processor Number 7700
Clock Speed 3.6GHz
Memory
RAM Memory 16GB
Storage
Hard drive capacity 2TB
Graphics
Graphic Type Dedicated
Graphics Manufacturer NVIDIA
Graphics card GeForce GTX 1070
Graphics Memory 8GB
Media
Optical Drive No optical storage
Operating system
Operating System Windows 10
Ports
USB 2.0 Quantity 2
USB 3.0 Quantity 2
Keyboard and Mouse
Peripherals Not included
Warranty
Warranty 3 year warranty

 

[johnb35]

All 7th gen I7 cpu's available on newegg are over $300 in the USA. Like I said all depends on which I7, where you are buying it from and other things. You are doing the build price not single price. Who knows what brand parts they are using in that particular build?

You'll get much better quality buying parts and building it yourself if you know someone who can.

 

[MandyPepe]

Thank you. I guessed as much. It’s not that straight forward is it as there’s lots to factor in. Thank you though.