AM3 = AM3+ ?

The VCR King

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What is the difference between AM3 and AM3+ socket? I've seen AM3+ motherboards that work with AM3 processors as well. Theoretically if I worked up the courage to do a BIOS update could I put an AMD FX AM3+ processor in my AM3 board? This is confusing to me...
 
AM3+ was a revision to AM3.

I don't remember the specific tweaks but you can Google it.
 
STOP WASTING MONEY! If you keep wasting money, all you're gonna do is bitch and complain that you have no money for anything else.
 
Hmm, I might install one of those after I get my PSU replaced

Like we've been telling all the new members wanting to build new am3+ machines, it's not really worth it now since the socket is dead. Save up your money for Intel socket 1151. Quit coming up with your brainstorms about getting this, getting that. Put your mind to getting only what you really want and this point in time, is a new computer.
 
STOP WASTING MONEY! If you keep wasting money, all you're gonna do is bitch and complain that you have no money for anything else.
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@The VCR King You don't want to use an AM3+ FX-8350 anyway at this point. It's a 4 year old CPU and a 5 year old socket that wasn't much of an improvement from the Phenom II X6 and is being replaced soon.

You can see how small an upgrade the FX-8350 was from your 1090T here: http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/697?vs=146

As you can see, it's barely any faster all and definitely not worth buying one as it's an old CPU.

You need to just save for a new PC with the latest Intel 1151 socket or AMD's new socket when it comes out (if it's any good, we don't know yet). :)
 
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@The VCR King You don't want to use an AM3+ FX-8350 anyway at this point. It's a 4 year old CPU and a 5 year old socket that wasn't much of an improvement from the Phenom II X6 and is being replaced soon.

You can see how small an upgrade the FX-8350 was from your 1090T here: http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/697?vs=146

As you can see, it's barely any faster all and definitely not worth buying one as it's an old CPU.

You need to just save for a new PC with the latest Intel 1151 socket or AMD's new socket when it comes out (if it's any good, we don't know yet). :)
I've been thinking about disassembling this rig and going ahead and building a new one. I have 1151 brackets for my Zalman and I'll probaby re-use my 6950 and SSDs.
 
I've been thinking about disassembling this rig and going ahead and building a new one. I have 1151 brackets for my Zalman and I'll probaby re-use my 6950 and SSDs.

No point in doing this without replacement parts..unless you just enjoy unbuilding and rebuilding a problem rig for zero reason
 
I've been thinking about disassembling this rig and going ahead and building a new one. I have 1151 brackets for my Zalman and I'll probaby re-use my 6950 and SSDs.
This is the probably the final time I'm going to tell you this, but I think you need to really think about how much money you have and what your priorities are:

You don't have a lot of money but you need a new power supply to keep yourself going: spend as much as you can on that now and then you can reuse that PSU in a new machine in the future. If it were me I'd actually get a solid 650W unit like the Corsair RM650 and forget about multi-GPU setups. They're rubbish anyway, get one good card instead! :p

After you've bought your new PSU (which you need to do regardless of which option you take below because you cannot afford to buy a new PC to replace your existing one at the moment, so you're going to have to use it for a little longer whatever you decide to do!), you SERIOUSLY need to learn to save money! Have you got a savings account with a bank? If not get one of those as soon as possible. If you haven't got one, do it BEFORE you read the below!

Then you have two options:
- Keep using what you have (with the new PSU) and save hard for a brand new machine: new everything apart from the bits you can reuse (HDDs, PSU and possibly the case unless you want a new style). No spending money on random stuff like car radios or slow and outdated AMD FX-8350s or anything like that: just save for your new PC and then reap the benefits when the day comes.

- Or you look at your current rig once you have your new PSU and decide what is affecting performance. It sounds like it's your graphics card: therefore you save and buy a new graphics card and then keep on saving until you can eventually replace the rest of the machine. If you put an R9 390 or something like that in your current PC you will notice a massive improvement in gaming performance even though your CPU is fairly old, I promise you! Whatever you do, DO NOT buy another 6950 for Crossfire or an older GPU. Forget about them all and get the latest thing you can get.

I can't tell you which to do because only you can decide if your PC is adequate enough for you or not and I don't know how long it will take you to be able to afford a new PC or a new GPU. I have no idea how much money you have other than it's not a lot. If it were me I would probably use your PC in its current configuration (with a new PSU) until I could afford to buy a computer to replace it, but I don't play games and don't require too much from a graphics card. If you game a lot then a better upgrade may be a new graphics card and then you look at the replacing the rest of the PC later.

Does this make sense?
 
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This is the probably the final time I'm going to tell you this, but I think you need to really think about how much money you have and what your priorities are:

You don't have a lot of money but you need a new power supply to keep yourself going: spend as much as you can on that now and then you can reuse that PSU in a new machine in the future. If it were me I'd actually get a solid 650W unit like the Corsair RM650 and forget about multi-GPU setups. They're rubbish anyway, get one good card instead! :p

After you've bought your new PSU (which you need to do regardless of which option you take below because you cannot afford to buy a new PC to replace your existing one at the moment, so you're going to have to use it for a little longer whatever you decide to do!), you SERIOUSLY need to learn to save money! Have you got a savings account with a bank? If not get one of those as soon as possible. If you haven't got one, do it BEFORE you read the below!

Then you have two options:
- Keep using what you have (with the new PSU) and save hard for a brand new machine: new everything apart from the bits you can reuse (HDDs, PSU and possibly the case unless you want a new style). No spending money on random stuff like car radios or slow and outdated AMD FX-8350s or anything like that: just save for your new PC and then reap the benefits when the day comes.

- Or you look at your current rig once you have your new PSU and decide what is affecting performance. It sounds like it's your graphics card: therefore you save and buy a new graphics card and then keep on saving until you can eventually replace the rest of the machine. If you put an R9 390 or something like that in your current PC you will notice a massive improvement in gaming performance even though your CPU is fairly old, I promise you! Whatever you do, DO NOT buy another 6950 for Crossfire or an older GPU. Forget about them all and get the latest thing you can get.

I can't tell you which to do because only you can decide if your PC is adequate enough for you or not and I don't know how long it will take you to be able to afford a new PC or a new GPU. I have no idea how much money you have other than it's not a lot. If it were me I would probably use your PC in its current configuration (with a new PSU) until I could afford to buy a computer to replace it, but I don't play games and don't require too much from a graphics card. If you game a lot then a better upgrade may be a new graphics card and then you look at the replacing the rest of the PC later.

Does this make sense?
It makes sense. I go with my previous plan like you said of getting a new PSU and reusing it in a new rig. I will most likely sell my case and get a Corsair Spec-2 case because those look cool
 
You should sit down, make a build, with a budget, assess your income, and how long it's going to take you to get everything.

You can say "I'll buy this" and "I'll save for that", but you don't seem to have much of a grasp on feasibility and time frame. Get a lock on that.
 
It makes sense. I go with my previous plan like you said of getting a new PSU and reusing it in a new rig. I will most likely sell my case and get a Corsair Spec-2 case because those look cool
Then get a PSU and go from there. Actually do it this time. :P
 
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