AMD 3500+ Clawhammer/Venice

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rox1co

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i'm confused

AMD Athlon 64 3500+ ClawHammer Integrated into Chip FSB 512KB L2 Cache Socket 939 Processor

AMD Athlon 64 3500+ Venice 1GHz FSB 512KB L2 Cache Socket 939 Processor

isn't Venice faster? but why is it that the first 3500+ has the Core that is used for the FX processors

and what is with the Integrated into Chip FSB? are they all like that?
 
The fx no longer use clawhammer. They use the san diago core now.

Vinece is newer then the clawhammer has a few extra mutimedia instructions and a imporve memory controller and should generate less heat. You should definally buy the venice core betweren those 2.

rox1co said:
and what is with the Integrated into Chip FSB? are they all like that?
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They just mean the memory controller is on the cpu instead of the motherboard. All skt 754 and skt 939 amd cpus are like that.
 
Could you explain a little more why choose Venice over Clawhammer (or any core for that matter)? Yes I have a Clawhammer, but I bought this CPU not knowing what core it was/not knowing what a core was period lol, so I'm not trying to defend it or anything, just wanting to know.
 
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Could you explain a little more why choose Venice over Clawhammer (or any core for that matter)? Yes I have a Clawhammer, but I bought this CPU not knowing what core it was/not knowing what a core was period lol, so I'm not trying to defend it or anything, just wanting to know.
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Well I dont know if there a set way to pick cores. generally speaking you go with the newer core but that not always true. I know quite a few people that rather have the older northwood skt 478 core over a prescott skt 478.

In the particular example of venice over clawhammer there a few things. One vinice core includes SSE3 which not a big a deal but it cool to have. Secound they fixed a error in the memory core. On a claw hammer if you have 4 sticks of ram in it will downclock the ram. This is not true with venice which can run 4 sticks at it normle speed. Thirdly venice generate less heat due to the .90nm process used to make it.

Nothing extremly major but if you look at the cost they within $10 of each other. If you going to buy a new one it worth spending 4-5 extra dollars to get the venice core.

Dont be to upset about getting clawhammer. It still a great cpu and proberly will suit your needs fine.
 
Dont be to upset about getting clawhammer. It still a great cpu and proberly will suit your needs fine.
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yes dont let it get you bent out of shape. There aren't many diferences. If you wanting to overclocking you may see a difference, but i doubt it more then 200-300mhz so nothing to get worked up about. With heat issues the venice is cooler and stock cooling is usually enough when overclocking. If you do oc the clawhammer you may need to get a third party heatsink.


I know quite a few people that rather have the older northwood skt 478 core over a prescott skt 478.
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And now you know one more :D
 
AMD Athlon 64 3500+ Clawhammer integrated into chip FSB 512kb l2 cache socket 939 processor

AMD Athlon 64 3500+ Venice 1ghz FSB 512kb l2 cache socket 939 processor

isn't Venice faster? but why is it that the first 3500+ has the core that is used for the fx processors
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they both wrong, AMD Athlon64 processors dont have a FSB but thats a marketing gimmick that people have gotten stuck on. between the two, the Venice cored one is superior

and what is with the integrated into chip FSB? are they all like that?
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"integrated into chip FSB" is a way of saying "this chip doesnt have a FSB but we'll use that as a marketing gimmick anyways". have a look at CPU 101.

Could you explain a little more why choose Venice over Clawhammer (or any core for that matter)? Yes I have a Clawhammer, but I bought this CPU not knowing what core it was/not knowing what a core was period lol, so I'm not trying to defend it or anything, just wanting to know.
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- Venice is one of the newest (the other is the San Diego and the difference is Venice = 512K L2 and San Diego = 1MB L2)
- Differece between Venice/SanDiego and Newcastle/Clawhammer that the Venice/SanDiego is (a) a 90nm chip rather than 130nm (lower is better) and (b) it has SSE3 and (c) has a tweaked memory controoler
 
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