AMD Athlon 3000+ or Intel Pentium 4 2.8 ghz?

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davidw00t

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Since I flipped back a few pages and could not find a topic named closely to this one, I decided it wouldn't hurt to post my question. So if I've missed something big, feel free to flame me, just send me the link to what I missed :D

Anyways, I currently have a 1.5 ghz machine, but I want to upgrade the processor. I want a computer that can play Half-life 2 and Doom 3 decently, and my 1.5 ghz processor is ok for that, but I want a smooth FPS while playing the game at 1024x768 with all the details up (that's how I have it set right now, but the game can get annoyingly low in FPS sometimes). My question is, should I get a P4 2.8 ghz processor, or an AMD Athlon 3000+? I've heard that AMD's processors are made for gaming, but I wanted to make sure that the 3000+ is better than the 2.8 for that purpose.

And, if you have to know, I have a little over 700 megabytes of RAM and a Radeon 9800 Pro video card.

P.S. With my HP 7955, it is impossible to upgrade the processor to either 2.8 ghz or Athlon 3000+ (trust me, I've done research), but I am going to get a new motherboard and processor and put them with my RAM and video card and hard drives into a new case. The question is, should it be an intel motherboard/processor combo or an AMD motherboard/processor combo?
 
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feel free to flame me
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*busts out the torch* :D

Anyways, I currently have a 1.5 ghz machine, but I want to upgrade the processor. I want a computer that can play Half-life 2 and Doom 3 decently, and my 1.5 ghz processor is ok for that, but I want a smooth FPS while playing the game at 1024x768 with all the details up (that's how I have it set right now, but the game can get annoyingly low in FPS sometimes). My question is, should I get a P4 2.8 ghz processor, or an AMD Athlon 3000+? I've heard that AMD's processors are made for gaming, but I wanted to make sure that the 3000+ is better than the 2.8 for that purpose.
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1. Whats the budget? A Socket754 proc might be a possibility for ya
2. If the costs are the same and such (or close enough), the P4 system should be the better choice (definitely if its a P4C and still somewhat true if its a P4E but not so much)

The question is, should it be an intel motherboard/processor combo or an AMD motherboard/processor combo?
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With these two options, i'd prolly go Intel
 
noise

only the fans make the noise lol. If ya do it right it can be done alright i use all 23 db fans so its not to noisy.
 
but u do ;-)
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You gonna go anywhere with that?

only the fans make the noise lol. If ya do it right it can be done alright I use all 23 db fans so its not to noisy.
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Thats assuming noise is a bad thing..... for some of us.... it helps us stay awake
 
dont c what the big diff is between a 2.8 p4 or athlon 3000.......
ps: did i say anything about the cpu..u brought that up
 
pipster said:
ps: did i say anything about the cpu..u brought that up
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I believe he was referring to this post:

12-27-2004 07:53 AM pipster said:
if u like noise..choose the athlon...at least thats my expierence.
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..and he is right.... the processor doesn’t make noise, the fan does...(I know what you meant, and I would assume Praetor probably did as well.... ....) since athlon cpu's are not as resistant as Intel chips to heat (I guess they have gotten better), heat sinks and fans become more of an issue... and I would think an athlon system's fan would be more powerful and subsequently, louder....
 
dont c what the big diff is between a 2.8 p4 or athlon 3000.......
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P4C-2.8
Core Clock: 200MHz
BUS: 800MHz
Multiplier: 14.0
Final Clock: 2.80Ghz
Typical OC: 3.2Ghz-3.4GHz
Extensions: SSE, SSE2

AthlonXP-3000
Core Clock: 200MHz
BUS: 400MHz
Multiplier: 10.0
Final Clock: 2.00Ghz
Typical OC: 2.2Ghz-2.4Ghz
Extensions: SSE, 3DNow, 3DNow+


1. Even if you discount the direct CPU clock, the BUS speed affects everythign on the mobo so the 800MHz from the Intel platform is superior to the 400MHz on the A32 platform. Half-a-point in favor of Intel

2. Yes the Intel boards dont support 3DNow/3DNow+ but thats not as big of a disadvantage as the lack of support for HT on the A32. Couple that with a lack of HT support, and thats two points in favor of intel. Now if you consider the P4E-2.8 then tack on SSE3 (another half-point)

..and he is right.... the processor doesn’t make noise, the fan does...(I know what you meant, and I would assume Praetor probably did as well.... ....) since athlon cpu's are not as resistant as Intel chips to heat (I guess they have gotten better), heat sinks and fans become more of an issue... and I would think an athlon system's fan would be more powerful and subsequently, louder....
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Indeed I did know the intention however my comments are still valid:
1. Not all coolers make noise or significant amount of it
2. The stock cooler for AMD chips are quiet enough for average Joe's buying computers -- if you wanna argue over a db here or there .... well then thats your argument
3. The stock cooler is good enough for the general public -- if you're overclocking and such you shouldnt be using a stock cooler regardless
4. Noise is good.... I dont wanna have a dainty sounding computer :P (8 Tornados all the way!) :D
 
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