Another "My temps are too high"

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highrev15k

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Well with the rig in my sig I am getting 44*c at idle and about 67*c at load using TAT. I have tried resetting the cooler 3 times and still no real change. I have tried all the methods of applying AS5 and still no more than a 2*c change. I am out of ideas and am not sure what to do short of just buying a new cpu cooler. If you guys have any suggestions, no matter how basic let me know. Its getting really frustrating hearing all these people who are getting great temps with the stock cooler and are able to overclock.
 
are you using cpu paste

ok one thang it might be is you tower my rig ran hot in my tower in tell i got my water cooling know i run at 19c idel 35c at load

amd 3800x2 2.01 stock oced to 2.7
 
Its installed correctly I believe (I followed the idiots guide to installing 775 heatsinks), I tried every combo of too much and too little AS5 and temps didnt change more than 2*c. What speed should the fan be running at?
 
TAT is reading the internal temperture, someone else had a thread, Bloodfox I think. The CPUs case temperature is usually about 15C cooler than the digital diodes TAT is reading.
It's a little on the warmer side but it's not too hot.
 
Just out of curiosity are you using the stock heatsync fan provided with the processor when purchased?
 
Yes I am. I realize that I am not going to get GREAT temps but they seem too high to me compared to others that I have seen.
 
When you pushed down on each of the arms to clamp the heatsync fan in, did you hear a noise like a snap / click? I had temps that went through the roof when I first built this machine I'm on now and it ended up being the heatsync fan. I had followed the instructions to the bone that was provided with the Intel processor, I just never realised I had to put so MUCH weight and strength into pushing down on each arm. I was almost afraid I was going to snap my motherboard in half I had put that much weight on it.

Try reseating your heatsync fan. Take it off, put it back on. But yeah, did you hear the click / snap noise when putting each one of the 4 arms into your motherboard? I know you've already reseated it 4 times already, but if you never heard the clicks, do it again.

Has this been occuring since day one? Or is it an old'ish machine (few months old etc) and it's only started to happen now?

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As for your question about what speed the fan should be running at. I changed mine in the BIOS to run at full speed all the time as I don't trust the standard retail heatsync fans they provide and I really dislike the 'only powers on when it hits a certain temp' feature.

Does your BIOS give the same temp readings as whatever application you are using on your desktop? Or are these readings from the BIOS? As I don't know what TAT is :).
 
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Intel Thermal Analysis Tool. It will show a different temperature than the BIOS because it's reading a different thing. The BIOS reads the Tcase diode where TAT reads a pair of digital diodes in each core where the heat is the highest (it dissapates outwards towards the Tcase diode, heat spreader and other stuff around the actual cores). The temperature read will be hotter than the case temperature. If the TAT reading stays below a certain threshold, which for most models should be somewhere around 80C, your CPU wont throttle and while it may be running hot even if it's not throttling it's not really overheating either.

TAT isn't intended for public use, you'll notice Intel doesn't provide a download for it to everyone.
 
Ok so what you guys are saying is that my BIOS is still the most reliable way to read temps because I understand the readings that it is giving me (That my max temp should be in the neighborhood of 65-70*C). And that as long as it stays under 80 fully loaded in TAT that I should be fine. Well I guess it dosent matter too much after playing around with the bios on the DS3 I liked overclocking so much that I decided to just buy a thermalright ultra 90 (the 120 extreme and TT120 dont fit in the 900 case) :(. Thanks for all the replies to what I am sure is an over-asked question.
 
How do you get a hold of TAT? I wouldn't mind checking out the temps of mine. If Cromewell's comments on TAT are correct, which I gather they are, then TAT is just as important if not more important than the BIOS readings when it comes to your processor.

Just out of curiosity, have you another heatsync fan you can try instead of the standard retail one?
 
Thank you for that. Feel free to edit out that link if you're concerned :). I just wanted to make sure that everything with my machine is running swimmingly as with my track record and PC's, I feel it's better to be safe than sorry :p.
 
It's fine because that's about the only way to get it.
And that as long as it stays under 80 fully loaded in TAT that I should be fine.
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It is fine, but that would be hot. At 80 in TAT you would be at the maxium case temperature (hence the reason for throttling) but at the same time you don't want to be just below if you can avoid it. It's always better to have your CPU as cool as you can make it. I know I'm kind of posting mixed messages here, sorry about that, it is ok as long as you are below throttle/kill temp but normally you want to be as far away from those as you can.

At stock speeds you don't need anything more than the stock cooler unless your PC is in an unusually hot location.
 
Not to hijack this thread or anything but both my cores read just under 42C. I'm guessing that's pretty good? Just had a few hours gaming on Battlefield too.
 
if you have too much thermal paste then it could simply be insulating the CPU and heating it up. alternatively, there may be too little in which case heat would be conducting to the heatsink very well and so some of it is trapped, causing the CPU to heat up. Although you may want to consider it might be a software error?
 
The original posters temps are fine as are Breaks. You only need to worry if TAT is reporting temperatures above 65-70 (assuming stock everything), if you are above those (again at stock) then something is causing it to run a little warmer than normal. If your PC is in a hot area then the temperature of your CPU is obviously going to be higher.
 
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