Apogee GTZ v. XT

ScottALot

ScottALot

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It's gonna be a looong wait, but when I get my watercooling setup in my HAF 932, I'm stuck choosing a waterblock. The XT is the new best waterblock to my knowledge, but the GTZ is close in performance and 1/3 less money. (XT is 75$, GTZ is 50$). Maybe both of those waterblocks aren't for me? If so, just specify. Just to be clear, here's my plan:

XSPC 360 Radiator (interior mount with 3 CM R4s on it)
Swiftech MCP 355 Pump
XSPC Acrylic Reservoir for Laing DDC
Primoflex UV Red Tubing

And I'll be upgrading this setup with added rads, possibly another loop for GPUs? Because the BloodRage GTI doesn't have a full chipset waterblock, I won't be doing NB cooling.

Also, quick question, what PSU should I get for the setup in my sig link? I'm gonna have 2 4890s eventually...
 
about the PSU, i would go for a 850W

2 x 4890 in Crossfire, a water cooling setup, im assuming a OCed system.

i think it will be the best choice

go for a Corsair 850W psu.

a 750W might handle the power requirements, but the 850W wont be under as much stress

as far as water cooling, im not that great on that subject.
 
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Computer_Freak said:
about the PSU, i would go for a 850W

2 x 4890 in Crossfire, a water cooling setup, im assuming a OCed system.

i think it will be the best choice

go for a Corsair 850W psu.

a 750W might handle the power requirements, but the 850W wont be under as much stress
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850W isnt anywhere near necessary, a 750W corsair or pcp&c will handle it fine(your only talking around a 500-550W load even with an overclocked i7).
 
bomberboysk said:
850W isnt anywhere near necessary, a 750W corsair or pcp&c will handle it fine(your only talking around a 500-550W load even with an overclocked i7).
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probably.

i would just prefer my components to not be under so much stress.

especially the PSU.

plus, as teh PSU will last about 5 years of continious running (100 000 hours), it would be a good choice to get something better, sa you might just upgrade to a more powerful system...
 
Okay, so ignore the PSU question, because I will be getting a PC P&C Silencer.

Also, any thoughts on the PrimoChill Typhoon III Reservoir System? It's an acrylic reservoir that has two sides for two loops using the same pump and radiator... but I plan on getting a different radiator for a second loop.
 
I have the GTZ and it's been running great in my system for over almost 2 years now. Now sure on the XT as I've never even heard of it.
 
The XT is right now the best single waterblock on the market, and the heatkiller 3.0 is beat by 1.5-2c by the XT. However, with that said, you will NOT realize as much of a difference by going for an XT over a GTZ as much as you would by getting a better radiator(eg- a dual thickness dual pass over a singlepass thinner one).

Computer_Freak said:
probably.

i would just prefer my components to not be under so much stress.

especially the PSU.

plus, as teh PSU will last about 5 years of continious running (100 000 hours), it would be a good choice to get something better, sa you might just upgrade to a more powerful system...
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Even if you were to go with three 4890's and an overclocked i7 you wont max out a silencer 750w, quite honestly for the normal person 650W and 750W power supplies are plenty(i only picked up my 1kw becauseit was modular, has some of the lowest ripple out there, and was on sale for a great price). If you go with anything other than the silencer, i would recommend taking a look at the zalman ZM line of power supplies, excellent units. (Not really any reason to get the corsair units unless you want a modular unit, even then i prefer zalman's offerings).
 
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ScottALot said:
I'm getting the XSPC 360 dual-pass. I think it's called 360RX or something.
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RX360, id spend a few extra bucks for the feser triple radiator, better unit and your temps will be lower than if you go with the XT(better spend of money). Just make sure to get some nice barbs(dangerden fatboys and bitspower barbs have the best flow rate).
 
So what you're saying is I should go with Feser and GTZ? And where do I get the barbs, how many do I need? (are there two barbs for every watercooling component?)

EDIT: Whoa, the Feser is like 40$ more... the XT is about 25$ more than the GTZ. I'm either going XSPC + GTZ or XSPC + XT.

Double EDIT: Okay, now I understand fittings. I thought barbs and fittings were two different things before... I guess compression fittings aren't worth it, they don't look good to me either. So DD FatBoys for barbs, but how many would I need?
 
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ScottALot said:
So what you're saying is I should go with Feser and GTZ? And where do I get the barbs, how many do I need? (are there two barbs for every watercooling component?)

EDIT: Whoa, the Feser is like 40$ more... the XT is about 25$ more than the GTZ. I'm either going XSPC + GTZ or XSPC + XT.

Double EDIT: Okay, now I understand fittings. I thought barbs and fittings were two different things before... I guess compression fittings aren't worth it, they don't look good to me either. So DD FatBoys for barbs, but how many would I need?
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Two for each component, so for a cpu loop your talking 6 barbs. Quite honestly the feser is worth the extra $40 over the RX360 though another option that is about halfway between the RX360 and feser would be the SR1 360.
 
ScottALot said:
So the Feser has better flow rate... any other pluses?
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Higher surface area, better quality overall, etc. If you dont want to spend the extra on the feser look at the SR1 360, its a great radiator for the price(not that the RX360 isnt, its better than any singlepass but its the lowest performing of most dual pass dual thickness rads).
 
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