Apple and Microsoft

[Flint67]

I have stumbled accross what appears to be a very good deal on an apple computer. However it has the Tiger OS X, I don't know anything about this OS and need to know how it stacks up with XP.

Is there a way to put XP on an apple notebook?

I googled this and got nothing so thanx for the help.

 

[Travo925]

I have stumbled accross what appears to be a very good deal on an apple computer. However it has the Tiger OS X, I don't know anything about this OS and need to know how it stacks up with XP.

Is there a way to put XP on an apple notebook?

I googled this and got nothing so thanx for the help.

you can run Virtual PC on a mac, but it runs terribly, so i wouldn't suggest that...if you want a gaming computer stay away from mac...anything else it'll suffice.....and as far as not knowing OS X, it's not hard to use or get the hang of

 

[Geoff]

There is no easy way to get Microsoft on a Mac. So if you want windows, you need a PC and if you want Mac OS X, you need a Mac.

 

[Flint67]

Im sure i could get used to it but will I still have connectivity to servers, and other windows based computers?

Will I be able o use powerpoint, excel, access, outlook, word, or does apple have there own version of these?

It really wouldnt do any gaming maybe simcity 4 could it handle that?

Again thanks for the help

 

[Travo925]

There is no easy way to get Microsoft on a Mac. So if you want windows, you need a PC and if you want Mac OS X, you need a Mac.

it's really not difficult to emulate windows on a mac, but as far as usability it's terrible.

Im sure i could get used to it but will I still have connectivity to servers, and other windows based computers?

Will I be able o use powerpoint, excel, access, outlook, word, or does apple have there own version of these?

It really wouldnt do any gaming maybe simcity 4 could it handle that?

Again thanks for the help

yes to all that

 

[Geoff]

it's really not difficult to emulate windows on a mac, but as far as usability it's terrible.

thats the thing, you may get it to look like windows, or think its windows, but it really wont be and it will be very hard to use it.

 

[Travo925]

thats the thing, you may get it to look like windows, or think its windows, but it really wont be and it will be very hard to use it.

it's actually windows, you install it with a regular windows disc and all, but of course anything emulated is going to be slow.... i have a picture of it running, if i can find it....


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[Flint67]

wow you guys are great with these speedy responses!! So I should be alright with mac since i can run windows apps. Anything else I should know?

 

[Geoff]

wow you guys are great with these speedy responses!! So I should be alright with mac since i can run windows apps. Anything else I should know?

i think you should explain about the "virtual pc" program to him more Travo.

 

[Travo925]

wow you guys are great with these speedy responses!! So I should be alright with mac since i can run windows apps. Anything else I should know?

woah...no, you're not going to want a mac if you're going to run windows apps, sorry for the confusion...it's possible to run them, but first you need to buy virtual PC, then a copy of windows...and even after the computer won't run the windows games or anyother installed windows program well....you can find MS Office and SImcity for mac i believe....

i think you should explain about the "virtual pc" program to him more Travo.

right right.... Virtual Pc is just a program that runs in the background that emulates a Fat32 or NTFS format, once VP is installed and running you can then install windows on that emulated filesystem....but you're not going to get anything out of it unless you have a fairly simple program that you can't get an OS X version for...uh...only reason i have it is so i could run xfire on there, but that ran too bad so i'm not really using it anymore other then tinkering....

moral of the story...if you want to run windows programs, buy a PC

 

[Flint67]

I have figured this out i think. I can get the office software for mac that is completely compatible with windows. I beleive this means for example I can write a doc on mac, save it on a flash drive, and open it in windows correct?

 

[Travo925]

I have figured this out i think. I can get the office software for mac that is completely compatible with windows. I beleive this means for example I can write a doc on mac, save it on a flash drive, and open it in windows correct?

MS office for Mac is a different program then MS office for WIndows, they both do the same thing, but need to be bought seperatly....and yes you can open up a .doc made on a mac on a pc, and vice versa

 

[Flint67]

Yeah its about the same price for the software either way. And i don't think the emulation sounds like a good idea for what im doing. So as long as all the docs and presentations and ect are windows compatable than im happy. thanx alot. lol this has to be a record for fast response.

 

[Travo925]

Yeah its about the same price for the software either way. And i don't think the emulation sounds like a good idea for what im doing. So as long as all the docs and presentations and ect are windows compatable than im happy. thanx alot. lol this has to be a record for fast response.

lol, could be....if you do decide to go with a mac, and use it as you plan, it'll be worthwhile, i still enjoyed mine, and it's 5years old

 

[timothyb89]

well, you might really want to get a windows PC and emulate the Mac. Also, you can use .doc formats on any OS (Linux, Windows, Mac) but with Linux, you will not need to pay $200ish for Microsoft Office. You would just need the free OpenOffic.Org, but that is (I think) also avialible on Windows. Macs are really just good for graphics, so there not my favorite OS.

BTW, if you have a JumpDrive Secure, they don't work on Macs very well. They seem to be factory formatted with a DOS extended + Logical partiton, so Macs don't work with it very well.

Personally, I hate Macs, as they are disfunctional, (eg. it freezes, you can't press the power button 4 five secs to turn it off; you have to unplug it) and they freeze more that any OS that I know of. Get Windows. Also, Windows can be cheaper than Macs. They are around $200 if you get a cheap one from Dell.

 

[Travo925]

you would just need the free OpenOffic.Org, but that is (I think) also avialible on Windows.

Good point, Openoffice.org is also available for mac...it's a decent office suite that'll support .docs

Macs are really just good for graphics, so there not my favorite OS.

?...because they're good with graphics, you don't like them?

BTW, if you have a JumpDrive Secure, they don't work on Macs very well. They seem to be factory formatted with a DOS extended + Logical partiton, so Macs don't work with it very well.

had the same problem with a sandisk flash drive...no big deal, I just reformatted it with a mac format, excuse me i don't remeber the exact name, something like MacOS Journaled, and it worked like a charm ...

Personally, I hate Macs, as they are disfunctional, (eg. it freezes, you can't press the power button 4 five secs to turn it off; you have to unplug it) and they freeze more that any OS that I know of.

what are all these OS' you're refering to that you've used that have 'froze less'?... I've had my Powerbook G4 for almost 5 years now, and i haven't had it crash/freeze once on me...

 

[computerhakk]

well, if you have not used tiger before, why not just put it onto a pc if you already have a pc. of course, like the other way around, it will be slow.

but, atleast you will get the experience of running tiger and getting the hang of it.

for example, here is my setup.

 

[Flint67]

Wow, i beleive i will stick to a pc. I'd like to go mac but from what ive read while researching this its clear that windows has a better platform for what i need which would be school work.

 

[Travo925]

is that using PEAR PC? computerhakk