Building a gaming desktop

AndrewLL

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I am planning to build a gaming desktop. Because it is my first time building a computer, I do not want to try to overclock the finished product. I know the same performance can be achieved for less money by overclocking but money is NOT an issue. I would rather spend more money to achieve the same performance than worry about overclocking my first time around.

Here is what I have picked out so far:


Besides opinions on optical drives and power supplies, I have several questions.

1.1) I heard the Xeon processors are the i7 processors under a different name. Is that true? If so, why would the same processor be sold at a different price?

1.2) For a gaming desktop, which processor should I choose: i7 or Xeon? Remember money is not an issue. I am willing to spend more money for even a nominal performance increase.

2) I heard the EVGA X58 motherboards are as good as (if not better than) the Intel DX58SO for Intel i7 processors. Wouldn't the Intel motherboard work best with their own processor?

3) Out of two memory modules offered by Mushkin, the only difference is the heatsink. What exactly is the difference between the heatsinks, which are Ascent and Frostbyte?

4) I read using multiple graphics cards is better (in terms of available graphical power). Is that true? If so, does the available graphical power 'max out' at, let's say, 3 NVIDIA GeForce GTX 295 GPUs or would a fourth contribute even more?

5) Is the hard drive I already chose a good choice with which to implement RAID 10 'The Striped Mirror'? If not, then what is a good hard drive with which to do so.

6) Are there any differences between the Home Premium, Professional, and Ultimate editions of Windows 7? If there are any extra features in the more costly editions that I, as a gamer, may use from time to time (however rare), then I am willing to spend the extra money to get those extra features.

Please excuse me if any of those questions were stupid. Thank you for your help. =]
 
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Well money is not an issue so let's see.

Cpu: You have
Mobo: some X58 motherboard
RAM: 3x2GB (6gb) from a good brand (corsair, g. skill, kingston, etc)
GPU: Ati Radeon 5870 (or wait for the 5870x2 to be released)
Case: Antec 1200, Antec 900, Thermaltake V9, CM Storm Scout, CM Storm Sniper (all good cases)
PSU: Corsair TX750 (or something similar)


Gunna be one heck of a computer.
 
i7 965...Good but too expensive
Money not an issue...

Mobo: ASUS Rampage II Extreme
RAM: G.SKILL Perfect Storm 6GB DDR3 2000
Video card - SLi GTX295
PSU - PC Power and Cooling T12W 1200W
HDD for main OS - SSD OCZ Vertex / Intel X25-M
May be get a water cooling system??
 
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Corsair Obsidian 800D Full Tower Case
i7 920
EVGA Classified Intel X58
Corsair Dominator 6GB (3x2GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C8 (1600MHz)
ati 5870
corsair hx850 psu
Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 1.5TB SATA-II 32MB Cache
Noctua NH-U12P SE2 Dual Fan Quiet CPU Cooler
sata dvd rw
 
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I am planning to build a desktop computer for gaming purposes. I have already chosen an Intel Core i7-965 Processor Extreme Edition (unless anyone objects). I would appreciate opinions on the memory and motherboard. Money is not an issue.

Thank you.
Unless you plan on running dry ice or LN2, return the cpu and get a W3520, and a nice watercooling system, will overclock much nicer than a 975ee.
Well money is not an issue so let's see.

Cpu: You have
Mobo: some X58 motherboard
RAM: 3x2GB (6gb) from a good brand (corsair, g. skill, kingston, etc)
GPU: Ati Radeon 5870 (or wait for the 5870x2 to be released)
Case: Antec 1200, Antec 900, Thermaltake V9, CM Storm Scout, CM Storm Sniper (all good cases)
PSU: Corsair TX750 (or something similar)


Gunna be one heck of a computer.
Dual GPU Single PCB cards are the 59xx series now vs ----X2 Edition iirc.

Corsair Obsidian 800D Full Tower Case
i7 920
EVGA Classified Intel X58
Corsair Dominator 6GB (3x2GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C8 (1600MHz)
ati 5870
corsair hx850 psu
Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 1.5TB SATA-II 32MB Cache
Noctua NH-U12P SE2 Dual Fan Quiet CPU Cooler
sata dvd rw
Eh, id get a mountain mods case. The obsisian is meant for that corsair h50 cooler more or less. dont like the corsair case at all....

Definately go for Mushkin memory, the 2000mhz redlines are killer.
 
that case has some serious quality.....

how is it designed for the h50 cooler?

The Obsidian Series 800D has pre-drilled support for top-mounted single, dual, and triple radiators!!

the h50 is one single 120 rad which goes on the rear fan (which %99 of casses have) and a cpu block with pump internaly!

this case is intended for some serious cooling using air or liquid

i do agree with mountain mods, they do nice casses but i cant let you get away with saying "The obsisian is meant for that corsair h50 cooler more or less"
 
that case has some serious quality.....

how is it designed for the h50 cooler?

The Obsidian Series 800D has pre-drilled support for top-mounted single, dual, and triple radiators!!

the h50 is one single 120 rad which goes on the rear fan (which %99 of casses have) and a cpu block with pump internaly!

this case is intended for some serious cooling using air or liquid

i do agree with mountain mods, they do nice casses but i cant let you get away with saying "The obsisian is meant for that corsair h50 cooler more or less"
There isnt enough airflow...sure you can mount a triple rad on top, the case has two intake fans, bottom(in the psu compartment) and if you flip the rear around its intake as well. This in turn leaves you with two options, have a highly negative pressure environment pulling warm air through the radiator, or setting to intake and pushing warm air to all other components. Ill have to try to find it, but there is a review where even corsair stated they designed the case with it in mind that users will be running the h50.

Overall, for their first case its alright....but i wouldnt buy it.

Not to mention its $299 for a steel case....at that price i would be expecting a nice aluminum case.
 
i just took it from the description

- Cooling: 3 x 140mm fans (included)
- Cooling: 4 x 120mm fans (optional)

seemed like alot of cooling but i looked closer and it seems like the psu is in a chamber with its own intake fan, same goes for the hard drivebays.

although they will be nice and cool in there own bays i think corsair has over looked the motherboard and cpu

seems like the only intended intake is 1x140mm fan at the bottom
 
i just took it from the description

- Cooling: 3 x 140mm fans (included)
- Cooling: 4 x 120mm fans (optional)

seemed like alot of cooling but i looked closer and it seems like the psu is in a chamber with its own intake fan, same goes for the hard drivebays.

although they will be nice and cool in there own bays i think corsair has over looked the motherboard and cpu

seems like the only intended intake is 1x140mm fan at the bottom
The build quality of the case however is....:eek:

I cant wait to see what the second revision looks like.
 
Thank you, everyone, for your opinions. They are very helpful for someone who is building a computer for the first time.

I realize everyone recommended RAM but I would like opinions on which RAM would be best for my motherboard and processor because I just chose the motherboard.
 
Thank you, everyone, for your opinions. They are very helpful for someone who is building a computer for the first time.

I realize everyone recommended RAM but I would like opinions on which RAM would be best for my motherboard and processor because I just chose the motherboard.
The DX58SO is a pretty crappy board comparatively speaking for the price....youd have much better overclocking potential from a Foxconn Bloodrage, EVGA X58 SLI, or X58 Classified.

Also...id drop that 965, its a 100% useless waste of money over a W3520 or i7 920.

Best 2000mhz memory there is imo:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820226057
 
i would have thought about other brands than that intel DX58SO-foxconn bloodrage is very nice

stick with the i7 920 i have mine running at 3.6ghz 24/7 no need for the more expensive i7's really!!
 
Thanks, bomberboysk and funkysnair, for the feedback. I'll look into the motherboards and processor you suggested. But before I do, I would like to remind you money is not an issue. I'm willing to spend more money for even a 1% (or less) performance increase. Is it not worth the money? Even though money is not an issue, there isn't any point in spending more for the same. But if there is even a 1% (or less) performance increase) then I'm willing to spend more money.

Thanks again.
 
Thanks, bomberboysk and funkysnair, for the feedback. I'll look into the motherboards and processor you suggested. But before I do, I would like to remind you money is not an issue. I'm willing to spend more money for even a 1% (or less) performance increase. Is it not worth the money? Even though money is not an issue, there isn't any point in spending more for the same. But if there is even a 1% (or less) performance increase) then I'm willing to spend more money.

Thanks again.

well if your sure....

Intel Core i7 975 3.33Ghz
EVGA Classified Intel X58
Corsair Dominator GT 6GB (3x2GB) DDR3 PC3-16000C8 2000MHz
2x Intel X25-M Mainstream 160GB 2.5" SATA-II Solid State Hard Drive raid0
Western Digital RE3 1TB SATA-II 32MB Cache
Corsair HX 1000W ATX Modular
2x XFX ATI Radeon HD 5870 1024MB crossfire
Sony Optiarc DRU-870S 24x DVD±RW SATA ReWriter
Coolermaster HAF 932 Case

but too me that would be alot of money, good performance but you need to find the balance

the main question's are----

how much would you like to spend?
what do you want from your pc?

my pc would cost half as much as that one but still its capable of just under 20,000 3dmark06 with one single ati 4890 gpu.. i can play all games etc...
 
What do I want from my computer? The ability to play any game (and many future games without having to upgrade) with the best graphics, audio, etc.

I am willing to spend as much as it costs to buy the best parts for my computer. I just want the satisfaction of knowing its made from the best parts. As long there is SOME performance increase (no matter how nominal), I'm willing to spend the extra money.

Honestly, money isn't an issue. But if you assure me there isn't any difference between, let's say, the $1000 part I am thinking about getting and a $750 part then I will most certainly choose the $750 part.
 
Thanks, bomberboysk and funkysnair, for the feedback. I'll look into the motherboards and processor you suggested. But before I do, I would like to remind you money is not an issue. I'm willing to spend more money for even a 1% (or less) performance increase. Is it not worth the money? Even though money is not an issue, there isn't any point in spending more for the same. But if there is even a 1% (or less) performance increase) then I'm willing to spend more money.

Thanks again.
That $700 more for the processor wont get you 1% of anything. If you really want the best performance, get yourself a watercooling system and a W3520 Xeon or i7 920. The actual cpu itself is IDENTICAL except for clockspeed, and they will overclock 100% the same. The only advantage a 965EE has is an unlocked multiplier, which unless your going to be benching under dry ice or liquid nitrogen there is no need for it.

Mushkin Redline 2000mhz is the best memory, however it is incredibly hard to find. The 2000mhz kit they have on newegg is a great kit.

Get this CPU:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117213&cm_re=W3520-_-19-117-213-_-Product

And then a nice custom watercooling setup. Ill get you a parts list you can start with if you tell me the case your planning on using so i know what size radiators and etc...if you havent decided on a case, id highly suggest checking out mountain mods cases. I like the Monticle myself, great case for watercooling. But if you have the room, the ascension is one heck of a sweet case.
 
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Thanks a lot, bomberboysk. Your information is really helpful for picking the right processor and memory.

I haven't yet decided on a case. I'll check out that mountainmods.com link and I'll get back to you when I've decided.

I can only imagine how useful your parts list will be to me. Thanks again.
 
I noticed in your post you mentioned 'overclock' and some of the cases I looked at also mentioned it. I just wanted to say it's something I don't want to do at the moment.

I know to someone like you, who knows a lot more about computers and has more experience building them, overclocking probably seems like such a natural thing to do. I would rather not worry about it my first time around (no matter how easy it may be. =P)

I just wanted to mention that in case it has any bearing on the parts list or the case itself.
 
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