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Karat Eyes

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Hello everyone,

I haven't built a desktop computer over a decade now, and not sure whats good out there. First let me set my price point and what its main purpose is.

Price point: $1000-$1200ish
Purpose: mainly renderings, and a bit of gaming too..

Now, I had my laptop over +6 years now and it feels like my GPU is about to go soon so I am in desperate to purchasing a dependable unit to meet my needs. What are your recommendations? As far as I know of is that the Nvidia 600 series are good for rendering, and some of the programs runs primarily on CSU instead. But I am looking further, maybe.

Just throw some specs on here and let me know! much appreciated! :)

thanks!
 
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I would throw out a list, but since Skylake is literally less than a week away, I would wait for those to come out.

Skylake is the new family of Intel processors BTW.

Also, the nVidia 600 series is pretty old now. They are on the 900 series (skipped 800) now.

Lastly, the PSU is the power supply. No program (as far as I know) performs better on a better PSU. Maybe you mean CPU? or RAM?
 
ninjabubbles3 said:
I would throw out a list, but since Skylake is literally less than a week away, I would wait for those to come out.

Skylake is the new family of Intel processors BTW.

Also, the nVidia 600 series is pretty old now. They are on the 900 series (skipped 800) now.

Lastly, the PSU is the power supply. No program (as far as I know) performs better on a better PSU. Maybe you mean CPU? or RAM?
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haha thanks for pointing that out! I just realized that. Thanks again! by any chance do you guys know how much those new processor will run me? And, I should just jump into the 900 series huh? Would a dual 700 series SLI setup be at a better price and performance?
 
Karat Eyes said:
Hello everyone,

I haven't built a desktop computer over a decade now, and not sure whats good out there. First let me set my price point and what its main purpose is.

Price point: $1000-$1200ish
Purpose: mainly renderings, and a bit of gaming too..

Now, I had my laptop over +6 years now and it feels like my GPU is about to go soon so I am in desperate to purchasing a dependable unit to meet my needs. What are your recommendations? As far as I know of is that the Nvidia 600 series are good for rendering, and some of the programs runs primarily on CSU instead. But I am looking further, maybe.

Just throw some specs on here and let me know! much appreciated! :)

thanks!
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$1000-$1200 is a really good build point. You can definitely build a PC to last for a very long time with your budget. If you would like to list some parts for you I could, possibly being as low as $800! :)
 
kam said:
$1000-$1200 is a really good build point. You can definitely build a PC to last for a very long time with your budget. If you would like to list some parts for you I could, possibly being as low as $800! :)
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Yes, that would be great! I just need a reference to what to buy. Also, what mid-size cases are good out there? One of my friend recommended me corsair because it has "less raddle" to the hardware and keeps the unit itself cooler than most of the other brands out there
thanks!
 
Karat Eyes said:
Yes, that would be great! I just need a reference to what to buy. Also, what mid-size cases are good out there? One of my friend recommended me corsair because it has "less raddle" to the hardware and keeps the unit itself cooler than most of the other brands out there
thanks!
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Yes, as Ninjabubbles3 said, Corsair cases are pretty much front line when it comes to high end PC building. In regards to your parts, take a look at this build I did for you on https://pcpartpicker.com/ , I of course left out things like an operating system, optical drive and an aftermarket CPU cooler. I'd only go with an aftermarket one if you plan to over clock your cpu which it would then need a better heat sink, but keeping it stock is completely fine and will still give you great results. An SSD is also optional but not an necessity, as well as additional cooling you might want depending on how long and hard you're pushing your PC. Here is the link to the build which is just over $800 bucks - https://pcpartpicker.com/parts/partlist/

Hope you enjoy!
 
I believe he's referring to Quadro K620, which is what we put in 90% of all the socket 115X workstations (HP, Lenovo, Fujitsu etc) we configure at work. It's a 2GB GDDR3 card, that should be about as good as a 650/740 for gaming.
But since you can get a GTX 960 or R9 380 for that kind of money, I can't imagine the 960 not to be a better choice either way.
 
kam said:
Yes, as Ninjabubbles3 said, Corsair cases are pretty much front line when it comes to high end PC building. In regards to your parts, take a look at this build I did for you on https://pcpartpicker.com/ , I of course left out things like an operating system, optical drive and an aftermarket CPU cooler. I'd only go with an aftermarket one if you plan to over clock your cpu which it would then need a better heat sink, but keeping it stock is completely fine and will still give you great results. An SSD is also optional but not an necessity, as well as additional cooling you might want depending on how long and hard you're pushing your PC. Here is the link to the build which is just over $800 bucks - https://pcpartpicker.com/parts/partlist/

Hope you enjoy!
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It seems like your link didn't work... but maybe you can do a screenshot of the list or just put the parts on here? The link directed me to their main site.

I also wanted to ask what is the better option when buying RAMs. For instance, is it optimal to buy 2x8GB of RAM or 4x2GB of RAM with these newer models?

thanks again! :)
 
Karat Eyes said:
better option when buying RAMs. For instance, is it optimal to buy 2x8GB of RAM or 4x2GB of RAM with these newer models?
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Did you mean 2x 4GB instead? ;) The way you had phrased it would indicate a Qty. 4 of "2 GB sticks".

If you have the budget for 16GB, I'd always take 2 sticks (2x 8GB) over four at the same aggregate capacity as you still have room to upgrade without decreasing quantity in the future, such as if you had to remove two to replace with higher capacity units.
 
beers said:
If you have the budget for 16GB, I'd always take 2 sticks (2x 8GB) over four at the same aggregate capacity as you still have room to upgrade without decreasing quantity in the future, such as if you had to remove two to replace with higher capacity units.
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yes sirr. thank you for correcting that! I just did a quick research on which ones are better. Basically, the lower CAS latency it has the better performance yatayata... correct? Whereas, speed would only show minor improvement in perfomance?
 
Both CAS and speed give very minor improvements in performance, although, I would go with the best stuff because the price difference is only like 5 dollars
 
Karat Eyes said:
It seems like your link didn't work... but maybe you can do a screenshot of the list or just put the parts on here? The link directed me to their main site.

I also wanted to ask what is the better option when buying RAMs. For instance, is it optimal to buy 2x8GB of RAM or 4x2GB of RAM with these newer models?

thanks again! :)
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Yes I noticed that my link didn't work so I will post the part list below with a price from the websites I found them on. And it makes sense to get 8x2GB just to save the space and many mbs aren't exactly compatible with 4 sticks of RAM, and even better 8GB is good for what you want and be doing, 16GB is just an over kill.

Part list:
CPU: Intel Core i5-4590 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor - $194.89
Motherboard: Asus Z97-A ATX LGA1150 Motherboard - $144.99
Memory: Kingston HyperX Fury Red 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory - $46.99
Storage: Kingston SSDNow V300 Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive - $47.99
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive - $48.89
GPU: EVGA GeForce GTX 960 2GB SuperSC ACX 2.0+ Video Card - $184.99
Case: Corsair SPEC-01 RED ATX Mid Tower Case - $49.99
Power Supply: Corsair CSM 750W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply - $99.99

Total adding up to $818.72 which is pretty good and will put out pretty good performance. I went for a red/black look and left out an optical drive, monitor and OS, which could cost another $250-$350 depending on what size monitor you go with and what version of OS you go with. My rig looks pretty similar to this and I can run BF4 at a steady FPS on mid-high (depending on how I want it to look) settings, I can get about 70FPS on high which is pretty good and around 50-60 on ultra (never play on ultra though). You could of course over clock your CPU but you would have to get an aftermarket CPU cooler which would be another $100 bucks, recommending a Corsair H100 or H100i liquid cooling system. I hope this helps! You can upgrade your GPU or CPU with the extra $ I saved you, just post if you need further help. (Parts all from https://pcpartpicker.com/parts/partlist/).
 
kam said:
Yes I noticed that my link didn't work so I will post the part list below with a price from the websites I found them on. And it makes sense to get 8x2GB just to save the space and many mbs aren't exactly compatible with 4 sticks of RAM, and even better 8GB is good for what you want and be doing, 16GB is just an over kill.

Part list:
CPU: Intel Core i5-4590 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor - $194.89
Motherboard: Asus Z97-A ATX LGA1150 Motherboard - $144.99
Memory: Kingston HyperX Fury Red 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory - $46.99
Storage: Kingston SSDNow V300 Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive - $47.99
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Cool! I will definitely keep you updated when I finally pull the trigger buying these parts! (I would probably wait for the Skylake though ;))
thanks again!
 
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Additionally, what other brands/models would you recommend for SSDs/HDDs and graphic cards?
I've read that Samsung EVOs had a dramatic decay in speed while accessing files, but was sort of fixed after a firmware update. I might choose the Samsung PRO series as an alternative to your Kingston SSD. But, what are your thoughts on it?
As for graphic cards, I am trying to understand the price difference between the Nvidia Geforce GTX 960 and Nvidia Geforce GTX 970. From both points, the only difference I see is the bit-rate of each graphic card, the gtx 960 being 128-bit and the gtx 970 being 256-bit. and the crazy thing is that the gtx 960 has a hire core clock, and nearly half the cost of the gtx 970!
 
Karat Eyes said:
Additionally, what other brands/models would you recommend for SSDs/HDDs and graphic cards?
I've read that Samsung EVOs had a dramatic decay in speed while accessing files, but was sort of fixed after a firmware update. I might choose the Samsung PRO series as an alternative to your Kingston SSD. But, what are your thoughts on it?
As for graphic cards, I am trying to understand the price difference between the Nvidia Geforce GTX 960 and Nvidia Geforce GTX 970. From both points, the only difference I see is the bit-rate of each graphic card, the gtx 960 being 128-bit and the gtx 970 being 256-bit. and the crazy thing is that the gtx 960 has a hire core clock, and nearly half the cost of the gtx 970!
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Yeah I didn't know much on the problem with the EVOs, but I did hear that they had a problem so for any other build I did I used a Kingston SSD. The only reason that is was to match my RAM which was also Kingston, so I'm sure as long as the problem with the EVOs are fixed either is fine. Now with the GPUs the GTX 970 will be a better choice and you will notice a difference in game, specifics might look kind of confusing, whether it's worth it or if there's any difference blah blah. I have a 960 SSC and it's great and I wouldn't upgraded unless I was going to a Titan or 98Oti. With the cost it's up to you, but I'd go with the 970 4gb model if you want more performance.

Hope this helped! :)
 
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