Building High-End Pc.

Tuffie · Apr 21, 2007

Alright it's my first time building a computer and I am thinking that its going to be hard, I have nearly finished selecting components, and I hope this is all going to work out.

I really need to know if it will all work together?

I am hoping I can find someone who can help me find all the parts fairly cheap because I am finding it very hard right now. By the way I am australian so I can use Newegg even though I would like to.

I wanted to fill all nine slots for fans on CoolerMaster case. And I also need to pick a power supply.

Well here it goes, this is what I have written up (when I list two of the same thing it means I cant decide which one to use.)

Processor: Intel Core2 -Extreme X6800.
-or Quad core.

Video Card: -Nvidia GeForce 8800 GTX
-Or Dual Nvidia GeForce 8800 GTX

RAM: - 3 x 1Gb DDR2
-2x 1 Gb OCZ DDR2 PC2-9600 FlexXLC Edition

Hard drive: Seagate SATA NCQ 400GB ST3400633AS-RK

Operating System: Windows Vista- Ultimate (OEM?)
- Home Premium (OEM?)

Wireless networking: 108Mbps WiFi Wireless LAN PCI Network Card L54A

Keyboard and Mouse: - Logitech MX500 Keyboard and mouse.
-Logitech® G15 Gaming Keyboard + Logitech MX Revolution.

Motherboard: NVIDIA nForce 680i SLI

Optical Drive: Asus 18xDVD+-RW, 14xDVD-RAM, 32xCDRW, SATA, LightScribe, BLACK

Chassis: CoolerMaster - CM Stacker 830-NVIDIA Edition
-CM Stacker 832
-CM Stacker 831

Hopefully you guys can shed some light on my situation.

Kent.

PC eye · Apr 21, 2007

The make and model of the board itself would be a help here. Different makes and models will be seen with the same nForce 680i SLI chipset or close. For the supply the person referred to on the other thread is good for giving you some of the best options from vendors close to you.

Here I recently added two new WD sata drives in with the already installed two identical WD ide drives to expand storage capacity as well as multi boot XP along with Vista and perhap Linux and Solaris. But Seagate also has some great support seen for their drives too. For the cpu choice it looks like you would want performance for gaming over multitasking. The new quad cores wil provide the increase in multitasking until those see performance models.

Logitech has some good models seen in their product line when compared here to the MS line. Your primary concern for a gaming build will be the supply chosen for the combination for SLI especially since you are planning only one hard drive seen there for the moment? Keeping temps down while be another thing at the top of the list especially for any ocing. LG, Lite-On, Nec, and even Sony make good optical drives to consider as well as Asus.

Tuffie · Apr 21, 2007

I really don't know who I am getting the 680i from, do you know who the best is?

I don't totaly understand what your saying about hardrive, could you explain it in stupid speak? HAHA. I only chose that Hardrive cause it seemed about how much I would use, I don't under stand the idea of RAID either, if someone can explain that one, that would also be handy.

Now the optical drive was only choosen because it has lightscribe rofl, can you suggest another one?

And another thing I need to know about is filling all nine of those fan slots, it will be a task but when I get around to starting to overclock I wont have to worry.

konstruct · Apr 22, 2007

The E6800 is over priced for my taste; but if you got the cash pull the handle

the E6600 is an overclocking machine ????? better bang for the buck IMHO

I would use the savings to grab a western digital 150 gig Raptor 10,000 rpm sata drive fastest hard drvie other than scsi, use if for your OS and gaming prog

INTELCRAZY · Apr 22, 2007

I agree konstruct

PC eye · Apr 22, 2007

The 680i is the main chipset on the board itself not the brand or model number there. That is one of the newer ones made by NVidia. You would need an NVidia chipset to run an SLI setup with two NVidia driven video cards like the pair of 8800s you are looking at. SLI is two of the same model run together.

About hard drives there are three main types. The usual seen with the flat ribbon cables are the ide type there. The Seagate model you looked at is a sata or Serial ATA type without a jumper pin and uses a thin data cable. The power plug is also different. Satas run on a faster data bus. The third type is the SCSI type originally the way of increasing speed on drives used for storing files.

RAID is the combination of two ide drives working together as one logical drive so you only see one drive letter for two drives in an array. Sata arrays are two satas for the same thing. On most newer boards you can use the onboard controller when the drivers are installed. But on many older board you would need a separate controller card installed in a pci slot.

I didn't see anything wrong with the hardware chosen where you listed the brand name and model as well as size of the hard drive. The two things you have to do is one select a good make and model board with that chipset and go with a good make supply with enough power especially for using two not one video cards. But you still someone closer to you in order to find a vendor you can order from to get the best prices on all of the hardwares plus the version of Vista you decide on.

Tuffie · Apr 22, 2007

konstruct said:
The E6800 is over priced for my taste; but if you got the cash pull the handle

the E6600 is an overclocking machine ????? better bang for the buck IMHO

I would use the savings to grab a western digital 150 gig Raptor 10,000 rpm sata drive fastest hard drvie other than scsi, use if for your OS and gaming prog

This 10K RPM your talking about, doesnt it come in a 400GB or 500GB?

Its just the amount of stuff I use and the games and stuff I end up using alot of space, right now I have 90Gb of music, 60Gb games, and then 100Gb movies, about 5Gb of random shite, and then possibly 20Gb of Autocad and 3d MAX 9 files.

150Gb isnt really going to work I don't think.

PC eye said:
The 680i is the main chipset on the board itself not the brand or model number there. That is one of the newer ones made by NVidia. You would need an NVidia chipset to run an SLI setup with two NVidia driven video cards like the pair of 8800s you are looking at. SLI is two of the same model run together.

About hard drives there are three main types. The usual seen with the flat ribbon cables are the ide type there. The Seagate model you looked at is a sata or Serial ATA type without a jumper pin and uses a thin data cable. The power plug is also different. Satas run on a faster data bus. The third type is the SCSI type originally the way of increasing speed on drives used for storing files.

RAID is the combination of two ide drives working together as one logical drive so you only see one drive letter for two drives in an array. Sata arrays are two satas for the same thing. On most newer boards you can use the onboard controller when the drivers are installed. But on many older board you would need a separate controller card installed in a pci slot.

I didn't see anything wrong with the hardware chosen where you listed the brand name and model as well as size of the hard drive. The two things you have to do is one select a good make and model board with that chipset and go with a good make supply with enough power especially for using two not one video cards. But you still someone closer to you in order to find a vendor you can order from to get the best prices on all of the hardwares plus the version of Vista you decide on.

WOW! I know it sounds stupid but I understood, man I think I am getting the hang of this!

I can still use the 680i with just one 8800 GTX and then when I am bothered to buy two I could just put it in right? or do I HAVE to Sli? Cause I don't know if I want to Dual 8800 GTX yet.

Would you aggree with the 150Gb Raptor? because I could just delete most of my music and all my videos, haha.

Kent

joeswm8 · Apr 22, 2007

Tuffie · Apr 22, 2007

I don't like any of those systems, I will stick to core2quad or extreme, and the 8800 GTX.

But thanks for the imput.

Kent.

joeswm8 · Apr 22, 2007

yeah, just showing you. i had all that in there until i realized that the money i would save i could use for many other things, and the negligible performance difference that the extreme and quad will give you in everyday apps. IMO just get a C2D now w/liquid cooling, OC it crazy, and in Q3 get a quad if you really want it when the prices cut again, but the performance increase off a highly OCed E6600 will be very negligible. but definitely get a GTX, i am still considering if i should throw that in

and what do you mean you dont like any of those "systems"

Tuffie · Apr 22, 2007

Haha, I don't think they would survive the hacking I would do to it rofl.

I would usualy be running somthing like this:

3D Max 9 Rendering some random object.
Maybe Autocad drawing a House or somthing like that for graphics.
Then switching to Css or BF2.
And playing music.
+ Downloading some random shite. Haha.

I like giving my puters a beating.

But thanks alot for showing me those, I am going to start newegging that system I have written up now.

Kent.

joeswm8 · Apr 22, 2007

i think it would live, but i see your reasoning. that is a s-load of hacking. lol

defiantely get a Raptor though, and consider watercooling

Tuffie · Apr 22, 2007

Hmm, I am also considering Overclocking it.

Kent.

holdenssx · May 1, 2007

For you question about the Raptors and not having enough space:
Raptors are generally used for storing the OS and games, in your case, since you need a lot of storage, you could get a 150 gb Raptor, and the 400 gb HDD that you listed earlier (the raptor for OS and Games, and the 400GB for music etc)

ezefosure · May 1, 2007

XRT said:
Haha, I don't think they would survive the hacking I would do to it rofl.

I would usualy be running somthing like this:

3D Max 9 Rendering some random object.
Maybe Autocad drawing a House or somthing like that for graphics.
Then switching to Css or BF2.
And playing music.
+ Downloading some random shite. Haha.

I like giving my puters a beating.

But thanks alot for showing me those, I am going to start newegging that system I have written up now.

Kent.

i believe all of that was one system... wasnt it?

maroon1 · May 1, 2007

X6800 is big waste of money, you can save $450 by getting Core 2 Quad Q6600
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115017

Get one 8800 GTX

And 2x 1 Gb OCZ DDR2

PC eye · May 1, 2007

The first thing there you will need to do is find the make and model board. OCZ is a premium brand while also a little higher often in the price dept. over Corsair xms DDR2 or another gaming type memory good for ocing. Are you staying with XP or ?

tlarkin · May 1, 2007

If you are going to get serious at all with 3D rendering I would suggest a work station render card. They suck for gaming but they are very nice for rendering in heavy 3D environments. I am not a animator or designer by trade but I support several animation/CAD labs that run the full on Autodesk suite from CAD, VIZ, Maya, and 3DsMax, etc.

PC eye · May 1, 2007

ATI had some good models in that area. The ATI FireGL V7350 is one to consider for this. One review for that model is seen at http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/video/display/ati-firegl-v7350_2.html

tlarkin · May 1, 2007

I do not recommend buying any ATI card at the moment. Their drivers are very disappointing, and overall in my personal experience Nvidia is just a better product and their drivers are way more solid. I had a ton of problems with ATI drivers today at work and it basically wasn't working as it was suppose to.

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