Choosing a right CPU

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Hi Everyone in here!

Im a newbie here, sory for my bad english...english is not my native language..

My question is..im trying to build a new system (with a US$1000.00 budget) basically for edit personal videos and then burn it to a DVD,mp3 encoding/decoding, surf in the internet, word documents etc. and i really don't know exactly what to choose:

i've read some of your threads, and i saw that P4 it's better then AMD for video editing and MP3, but the thing is i don't know wich ones of the intel to choose:

Socket LGA775 or 478
Core Presscott or Northwood
Process 0.09Micron or 90nm

i wanna go for a 3.2, but the speed got me confused too, i don't know if it worth the money .
 
3.0E 1Mb cache chip SHOULD do you fine. The thing you need to worry about is memory. Really hardcore video editing takes a lot of memory, which is why people usually choose macs for that. (they really are better for video stuff). But if you ARE going to get a PC I would suggest one of the socket 478 chips. They are "old" (compared to today's chipsets) but still get the job done. Plus motherboards are still readily available along with GFx cards (although PCI-E seems to be the next AGP). For memory you're going to want stuff that can run a high speeds (most high preformance memory is ok) Kingston, Micron, Crucial, Corsair are companies I usually trust (samsung but not as much). I'm not a real hardcore video editor so you may want some more opinions before you make your decision. All this should run you somewhere in the 3-400$ range (possibly).
 
If you choose a prescott (P4E) you should really get the LGA775, it will keep the heat of the prescott to a reasonable level (at 2.8-3.4GHz, at 3.4 it will be on the warm side). This does mean you'll have to get a PCIe video card though. If you can't afford one (gf6200s are quite cheap and good for the nongamers) you can get a 915G which has onboard graphics. For s478 P4Cs are the way to go.
Process 0.09Micron or 90nm
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these are the same :)
 
so, i don't know if im missing understanding, but basically theres no difference between lga775 and 478 technologies....
 
Cromewell said:
If you choose a prescott (P4E) you should really get the LGA775, it will keep the heat of the prescott to a reasonable level (at 2.8-3.4GHz, at 3.4 it will be on the warm side). This does mean you'll have to get a PCIe video card though. If you can't afford one (gf6200s are quite cheap and good for the nongamers) you can get a 915G which has onboard graphics. For s478 P4Cs are the way to go.
these are the same :)
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I thought those were the same. I just didn't want to say anything. Also why would getting the 775 keep the heat down?
 
I don't think there is really any differences in the CPUs, from what I've heard the higher speeds (ie 3.6 GHz) actually have to throttle back the speed because of the heat. The new 915 and 925 chipsets, however, have some features that help such as decreasing power consumption when the CPU is idling.
 
Socket LGA775 or 478
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If you're getting more than 3.2GHz then get a LGA775, otherwise go socket478

Core Presscott or Northwood
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Again if more than 3.2GHz get a Prescott otherwise get NorthwoodC

Process 0.09Micron or 90nm
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Same thing

Really hardcore video editing takes a lot of memory, which is why people usually choose macs for that. (they really are better for video stuff)
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Care to elaborate on this? (the Mac and Memory stuff that is)

samsung but not as much
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Even tho Corsair, Kingston, Crucial etc use Samsung (with the obvious exception of Micron which uses its own TCCDs

so, I don't know if im missing understanding, but basically theres no difference between lga775 and 478 technologies....
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Big difference (more so than just 297pins). The 478 is an older spec but for certain clock speeds, a much better choice than the newer 775s

I thought those were the same. I just didn't want to say anything. Also why would getting the 775 keep the heat down?
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Cuz the S478 Prescotts are a serious b*tch when it came to heat (hence the initial problems with the overheating Prescotts)

I don't think there is really any differences in the CPUs, from what I've heard the higher speeds (ie 3.6 GHz) actually have to throttle back the speed because of the heat
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He was asking between the 775 Prescotts and 478 Prescotts. The higher speed Prescotts dont exist for S478 so its a moot comparison.
 
Macs can load up way past the 4 Gb limit on most (non-server) PC's. From what I'vee seen i think that max load of a non-server mac is 8Gb of ram (albeit REALLY expensive). They also are still using dual processors for their powermac instead of a single like AMD/Intel. I don't know much specifics but I do know macs really are better for video editing.
 
Macs can load up way past the 4 Gb limit on most (non-server) PC's. From what I'vee seen I think that max load of a non-server mac is 8Gb of ram (albeit REALLY expensive). They also are still using dual processors for their powermac instead of a single like AMD/Intel. I don't know much specifics but I do know macs really are better for video editing.
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Ok that's what you were talking about :D It should also be noted that most video apps were originally written for Macs and as such there is a "home-turf" advantage. It's also useful to note that the x86/x87 architecture is very rapidly encroaching (and in some specific areas such as MPEG4 manipulation, surpassing), Mac architecture's capabilities :)
 
so, i don't know if im missing understanding, but basically theres no difference between lga775 and 478 technologies....
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there are differences but nothing earth shattering. but you asked about 0.09 micron and 90nm which are the same thing.

why would getting the 775 keep the heat down?
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it was designed to provide more power to the cpu (hence the need for more pins) and less power running through a given spot=less heat. Before Preator says the power runs through the same number of transistors you can't argue with results :P, find a P4 3.0E in a s478 package with stock cooling that will run at 45-50 deg or cooler under full load (if someone actually does and room temperature is ~20 deg I'll be shocked :)).
 
Choosing The Right Computer

Thanks For The Replies.

I got to the following conclusion:


CPU : INTEL 3.0c 478 northwood VERSUS INTEL 3.2e presscott (cause, better prices, heating matters, and cause 3.2GB doesn't make too much of a differrece against the 3.0GB talking about the speed)

MOTHERBOARD : (still don't know yet witch one it's better and wich chipset to choose)

MEMORY : 2GB (2x1GB)

SOUNDCARD : SoundBlaster live! 32 bit

VIDEOCARD : still don't know yet

ETHERNET : 3COM 10-100

FLOPPY DRIVE : MITSUMI

CASE : a midtower no with that GAMER look, but more like a multimedia look

MEDIACARD : ATI DELUXE package

DVD WRITER : SONY+-RW double layer

DVD : SONY
 
INTEL 3.0c 478 northwood VERSUS INTEL 3.2e presscott (cause, better prices, heating matters, and cause 3.2GB doesn't make too much of a differrece against the 3.0GB talking about the speed)
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1. What's the 3.2GB?
2. The 3.0C is the better chip
 
Thanks For The Replies.

I got to the following conclusion:


CPU : INTEL 3.0c 478 northwood VERSUS INTEL 3.2e presscott (cause, better prices, heating matters, and cause 3.2GB doesn't make too much of a differrece against the 3.0GB talking about the speed)

MOTHERBOARD : (still don't know yet witch one it's better and wich chipset to choose)

MEMORY : 2GB (2x1GB)

SOUNDCARD : SoundBlaster live! 32 bit

VIDEOCARD : still don't know yet

ETHERNET : 3COM 10-100

FLOPPY DRIVE : MITSUMI

CASE : a midtower no with that GAMER look, but more like a multimedia look

MEDIACARD : ATI DELUXE package

DVD WRITER : SONY+-RW double layer

DVD : SONY
 
got to the following conclusion:
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ok thats fantastic, why must you repaste the entire thing all the time?

I'd say you'd be best served with an i865 based motherboard. If you don't want the dual channel look at the i848, it will be hard to find many of those though.
 
Praetor said:
1. What's the 3.2GB?
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There was 2 pentium 4 "B" I know of 2.8ghz and 2.4ghz. I have never heard of a pentium 4 "b" 3.2ghz.

oh I just read the rest of the posts I guess he ment 3.2ghz.
 
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