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Billbrad

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I am having problem with a computer. It is a T1860 emachines computer with 1800+ xp amd athlon processor and L7VMM motherboard onboard video card running windows xp home. It has 512 mb of ram and a 60 gig hd. Every time you start it up it gets almost into windows and just restarts the computer on its own. Sometimes it shows a blue screen but it doesn't give you long enough to read what it says before it restarts. Things I have tried are trying a different power supply, tried different ram, replaced processor fan with new fan and new thermal paste, and added a new case fan. One thing I found that works is adjusting settings in the BIOS which include disabling CPU Internal Cache, External Cache, CPU L2 Cache ECC checking, APIC mode, HDD Smart Capability, Video Bios Shadow, Memory hole, system bios cacheable, video ram cacheable, ACPI function, but the computer runs pretty slow with these disabled but atleast the computer boots up all the way into windows and you can start doing things with waiting a bit for programs and menus to come up. My Processor is running at 62 degrees Celsius (143.6 degrees F) and case is at 29 degrees Celsius (84.2 degrees F) checking from the bios screen. I also flashed the bios. Maybe I should flash it back to a previous version. Any help would be appreciated. :confused::cool::(:eek:
 
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62C is about cooking a cpu there! Even with the stock hsf and the higher max temps an older Atholon could take you are running HOT! Besides a need for some good cooling and adding a large fan or two along with a better cpu cooler look at the device drivers as being one likely cause for the startup problems. Things you already thought of apparently and still not getting anywhere.

Have you gone to their support site for any updates? Sometimes a newer release of video drivers for the onboard will help. Those also include the drivers for memory controllers as well as the onboard video. eMachines can be a pain to work with however. I've worked on a few and their support lags a bit.

Besides video, sound, and board drivers you may also be looking at an incomplete flash or eventual board fault being realized. You've already tried different memory along with a different supply ruling those out. Bad dimm slots or a failing failing vpu with the onboard where you may want to try a pci type card for video. But being an old board you have to plan on going newer and save up for that rather then spending much on the present system. Just a few ideas to toss in here.
 
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CPU Internal Cache, External Cache, CPU L2 Cache ECC checking, APIC mode, HDD Smart Capability, Video Bios Shadow, Memory hole, system bios cacheable, video ram cacheable, ACPI function,
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:eek: :eek: :eek:

How's your case? If it's good, replace the mobo, video card, and CPU. Basically, take all the replacement parts you purchased, and build a new system.

If you're on a budget, we can make some recommendations. :)
 
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By the time you start replacing board, cpu, memory, and a nuch newer video card you would be looking at building a new system anyways. If that cpu continues for much longer at the high temps seen there it won't last and I still haven't found a replacement cpu for an old Atholon XP3200 that cooked on one build. Then if you download another fresh copy of the latest or last bios version available you may still run into problems if this is an actual board fault being seen there.
 
Even a newer model eMachines would see a different style case. A custom build on the other hand would allow far more options even for someone on a tighter budget then going for a prebuilt with limited options for upgrades later. But it also depends on what the system is used for and how experienced with hardwares and installing OSs and softwares someone is.

For those with little or none and just for checking the mail or playing some less demanding games without fuss then a prebuild is an easy way to upgrade. For those that want a higher end machine for gaming and ocing then some familiarity with those things is practically a must.

The question here is how are the temps being monitored? Is that by simply looking at the hardware montior in the bios or is a program used in Windows there? A failing cpu or board fault could be the cause for the hardware problems while the BSODs are generally some driver hanging up on you.
 
Im checking the temps off the bios screen. I should download a windows program to see what they say for temperature readings while im in windows. What is a BSOD?
 
Billbrad said:
I am having problem with a computer. It is a T1860 emachines computer with 1800+ xp amd athlon processor and L7VMM motherboard onboard video card running windows xp home. It has 512 mb of ram and a 60 gig hd. Every time you start it up it gets almost into windows and just restarts the computer on its own. Sometimes it shows a blue screen but it doesn't give you long enough to read what it says before it restarts. Things I have tried are trying a different power supply, tried different ram, replaced processor fan with new fan and new thermal paste, and added a new case fan. One thing I found that works is adjusting settings in the BIOS which include disabling CPU Internal Cache, External Cache, CPU L2 Cache ECC checking, APIC mode, HDD Smart Capability, Video Bios Shadow, Memory hole, system bios cacheable, video ram cacheable, ACPI function, but the computer runs pretty slow with these disabled but atleast the computer boots up all the way into windows and you can start doing things with waiting a bit for programs and menus to come up. My Processor is running at 62 degrees Celsius (143.6 degrees F) and case is at 29 degrees Celsius (84.2 degrees F) checking from the bios screen. I also flashed the bios. Maybe I should flash it back to a previous version. Any help would be appreciated. :confused::cool::(:eek:
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The first thing you need to do is go into the Bios and reset it back to default, disabling your internal and external cache will slow down your computer to a crawl. If its restarting right as Windows is starting it could just be a driver.
 
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Even on a brand new build you can run right into the Blue Screen Of Death at it labeled. even Bill Gates has seen that one. :P http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rgri...alk.org/forums/showthread.php?p=7972#post7972

Here the ati2dvag.dll driver for the new video card has been an annoyance along with the new catalysts out. But the temps are way to high if accurately being read there. A few other free programs for monitoring cpu and other temps are SpeedFan and a System Info for Windows(SIW) tool.

The first SpeedFan is found at http://www.almico.com/sfdownload.php Note the download link is the SpeedFan name in the second paragraph there.

For overall system information including softwares and the list of hardwares as well as the readings from board sensors SIW is free at http://www.gtopala.com/siw_on_pc_world.html

Once you load the bios defaults or optimal settings make the OS2 and Plug'nPlay settings are correct then try the F8 start menu option of safe mode to see if any problems are seen then when loading Windows. From there you can easily use a driver removal tool if the problem with BSODs is involving the most commonly found being a video driver.
 
If you reset your bios to default before you exit and save, if your using a USB Mouse or keyboard make sure you set it to enable
 
I often have fun with a usb type MS keyboard where the ps/2 adapter is used. The F8 menus for both the bios boot menu and the Windows startup menu work without problem. But when going to reinstall Windows like after replacing a board here that went doa after 3 days you have to unplug it and plug in a standard ps/2 model in order to press the F8 agreement during the installation. That's with power on by usb mouse and keyboard enabled.

One question remains about the high cpu temps would whether or not you are ocing the older AMD cpu there? The one thing that will see temps soar on an older Atholon model would be ocing to see that high of temp after replacing the stock hsf. It sounded like you went with a 3rd party cooler rather then a simple stock hsf replacement.
 
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