cpu swap problem help

Dillan500

Dillan500

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i have a celeron 2.8ghz

and i swaped it for a pentium 4 ht 3.2ghz


but it randomly shuts off, sometimes giving me the blue screen first, and sometimes not. and sometimes it shuts off with in a second of pressing the on button, or sometimes it loads up all the way and shuts off randomly

when i put back in the celeron it works fine

is the running hot? in bios 58-62 degrees celsius (idle)

i was just wondering if that would be the problem or not? and if not... any suggestions?
 
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P4's ran hot, but that does seem a bit high at idle. Could be that while things are loading it's just getting too hot and shutting down. Do you have a different cooler and some good thermal compound you could use to try and lower temps?
 
imsati said:
P4's ran hot, but that does seem a bit high at idle. Could be that while things are loading it's just getting too hot and shutting down. Do you have a different cooler and some good thermal compound you could use to try and lower temps?
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ha, nope
 
Well I'm not sure what else to suggest. You could try adding more case fans if you have them (and your case can hold them) or leaving the side panel open and aim a desk fan at the HSF. It might help to keep things cooler and running long enough to install a temp-monitoring program so you can get an actual temp during OS functions.
 
Renew the thermal paste and remember to clean off the old first before putting on the new paste and get at least the stock heatsink and fan for the cpu, you can normally find cheap ones on e-bay
 
well the easy way to do it is to unplug your computer and pull the battery out next the the battery there should be pins 123 if its on 1 and 2 move it to 2 and 3 now put the it back or you can get a screw driver and touch the tabs where the battery goes in. now reset your date and time.
 
valtopps said:
well the easy way to do it is to unplug your computer and pull the battery out next the the battery there should be pins 123 if its on 1 and 2 move it to 2 and 3 now put the it back or you can get a screw driver and touch the tabs where the battery goes in. now reset your date and time.
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lol, i wasent expecting that. what does all that do exactly?
 
Dillan500 said:
lol, i wasent expecting that. what does all that do exactly?
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Don't worry about it - the only way anything in BIOS would have changed is if you went in there and did it yourself. And even if you did, you could simply restore the Default settings.

Although, you may want to invest in a can of compressed air to blast out any dust that might be inside and/or on the HSF.
 
imsati said:
Don't worry about it - the only way anything in BIOS would have changed is if you went in there and did it yourself. And even if you did, you could simply restore the Default settings.

Although, you may want to invest in a can of compressed air to blast out any dust that might be inside and/or on the HSF.
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no, its a clean PC, im going to put it in a new case and a new PSU today, also got some cooling compound, but idk if thats the problem because sometimes it shuts off within a second or so of turning on... and i dont think that would be enough time for it to heat up to the point that it needs to shut down.

I also put an older P4 2.4ghz to see the temps, and it was getting about 40C in bios
 
are you sure you got the hsf on tight and you used enough paste? also can you see the fan running on the cooler.
 
valtopps said:
are you sure you got the hsf on tight and you used enough paste? also can you see the fan running on the cooler.
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Agreed - sometimes, depending on the MoBo and HSF used, it's possible to get caught up on a capacitor - only takes half a millimeter to create a gap between HSF and CPU.
 
Dillan500 said:
i will right now, and just for note. i was sitting in bios to see when it would shut off, and at 63c is when it shut off
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Typically no. However, I think you're at the point where you'd need to do more in-depth testing with swapping out components if you have spares. For instance, swap out the PSU and check to see if it still happens; try one stick of RAM at a time, use a different GPU (if applicable), etc to try and isolate any other problems. Is your MoBo properly installed (proper use of standoff pins)? Any frayed or exposed PSU wires that could cause a short? Hell, is the CPU on the MoBo's supported list? Just tossing out ideas that aren't heat-related.
 
imsati said:
Agreed - sometimes, depending on the MoBo and HSF used, it's possible to get caught up on a capacitor - only takes half a millimeter to create a gap between HSF and CPU.
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i would agree, IF:

the temp said more than 63c

or if it dident work fine with the other 2 processors i have

or if i hadent taken it out and put it back in about 20 times

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i currently have an older p4 2.4ghz hooked up to it now, and PC Wizard says my processor temp is 18c that cant be right...???
 
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