Do i need to OC??

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Im looking at building a gaming PC using an E6600 core 2 duo.. do i need to oc it to get the best gameplay or is it a good enough CPU to run a game to its maximum without OCing?
i will also be running a single 8800GTX
 
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Do you have to OC? The fast answer to that is NO! You DO NOT have to oc just to run games and see good performance. Most games released in the last several are made to be able to run well on different hardwares as well as going from ME and 2000 upto XP and now Vista for many. Besides the cpu other hardwares like the 8800 and memory play a role in seeing better game performance over simply briniging up the cpu clock speed.
 
Naw, the 8800 and the E6600 are a match made in gamer heaven. You can set all games to max quality and have no lag at all (at least for the time being, dunno when DX10 comes out)
 
Shadowhunter said:
Naw, the 8800 and the E6600 are a match made in gamer heaven. You can set all games to max quality and have no lag at all (at least for the time being, dunno when DX10 comes out)
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Upgrade to Vista and find out! It's included there in Windows and not a separate download available at this time. It's not capatible with XP.

DX10 like DX9 or any other version is the Direct X method for 3D rending in Windows for graphics, multimedia, and games as well as the Direct X for sound effects in audio. The Microsoft description for DX10 goes as follows.

DirectX 10, the latest version of the DirectX suite of multimedia application programming interfaces (APIs), puts gamers and multimedia buffs on the leading edge of PC graphics performance.
DirectX 10 features heavily enhanced 3-D graphics-rendering capabilities and helps noticeably improve your computer's performance in games and high-end 3-D applications. DirectX 10 empowers games to present a new generation of visual effects, and deliver more visual detail per frame than ever before.
Providing a standard 3D development platform for Windows-based PCs, it also provides software developers access to powerful hardware features without the need to write hardware-specific code. For gamers and video enthusiasts, this translates to reliable, higher-performance graphics when you're playing games on your PC.
Check out the official Games for Windows website. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/products/windowsvista/features/details/directx.mspx
 
Dx10 is a new graphical interface.. It's next-gen.

As people have said, an E6600 and a GTX don't need to be overclocked.. yet. After a year or two overclocking both those monsters will actual yield some noticeable effects.
 
hermeslyre said:
Dx10 is a new graphical interface.. It's next-gen.

As people have said, an E6600 and a GTX don't need to be overclocked.. yet. After a year or two overclocking both those monsters will actual yield some noticeable effects.
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Direct X in any version isn't a graphical interface. Windows on an NT core is a desktop gui there. DX is the means for running animations and 3D graphics on Windows. There's also DX for sound. The description provided by Microsoft is as follows here.

direcX10Logo.jpg
One of the most exciting developments in Windows Vista is the groundbreaking graphics technology. Many of the newest Windows games will take full advantage of the next-generation graphics technology in Windows Vista called DirectX® 10. DirectX® 10 will provide an incredibly detailed experience for gamers of every type, and will enable game creators to increase a game's level of realism, enhancing details and complexity in gaming worlds, apply effects like dynamic lighting and weather, and much more.

While Windows Vista is fully compatible with games and hardware that use older versions of DirectX®, the new DirectX® 10 features are available with a DirectX® 10 compatible graphics card and games designed to take advantage of this new technology. Adding a DirectX® 10 card to a PC running Windows Vista is like turbocharging your gaming experience. Existing games (most of which were written using DirectX® 9) get world class performance, while unlocking the new generation of gaming graphics with DirectX® 10 optimized games. http://www.gamesforwindows.com/en-US/AboutGFW/Pages/DirectX10.aspx​
 
Direct X is a set of APIs, that allow developers to directly code their video games to use the hardware for specific functions. It also allows other developers of applications to enchance the experience with technologies like OpenGL and the such to make cool animations, and 3D GUIs.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DirectX

And no, over clocking is highly pointless in many many cases, it lowers stability of your system and causing more damage over time to your hardware. Its like tossing NOS in your car, your engine block ain't bullet proof and you keep pushing it that hard, it will fail. Heating up your hardware over and over again like that ends its life faster and faster.

As for real world performance, you will get some but you won't notice it in real time. I mean, there is no way a human can tell the difference between getting 70fps and 77fps in a game.
 
All the crap stated about DX sounds like a graphical interface thing to me. :D

tlarkin, As long as People don't aggressively bump the voltage, heat doesn't rise that much, as for me, My voltage hasn't been raised. You could argue that the increased speed alone causes early death, and it does.. But only by a small amount. On average only about 2 years are removed from a 10 year lifespan. Oh things can go wrong, but the an experienced overclocker doesn't run into these problems as oft as the complete newb.

As for the Minor Fps boost.. that's why I recommended he look into OCing in a year or two, 70-77 may be nothing, but going from 18-25 is. :)
 
tlarkin said:
Direct X is a set of APIs, that allow developers to directly code their video games to use the hardware for specific functions. It also allows other developers of applications to enchance the experience with technologies like OpenGL and the such to make cool animations, and 3D GUIs.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DirectX

And no, over clocking is highly pointless in many many cases, it lowers stability of your system and causing more damage over time to your hardware. Its like tossing NOS in your car, your engine block ain't bullet proof and you keep pushing it that hard, it will fail. Heating up your hardware over and over again like that ends its life faster and faster.

As for real world performance, you will get some but you won't notice it in real time. I mean, there is no way a human can tell the difference between getting 70fps and 77fps in a game.
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not really... when i had a Socket A sempron 3000+ 2Ghz, i overclocked it just .1Ghz and got a hefty 10-15 frame per second boost in fear. so I overclocked it more. and also good cooling and overclocking should go hand and hand. now i have a E6300 at 3GHz stable as ever, good cooling, and already from that overclock i see a huge differences in speed, like video editing, extracting files and boot up time.
 
Even with temps down you place hidden stresses on hardwares when constantly ocing this or that. And yes it can easily shorten the life of hardwares since it is comparatible to placing a max load on a cpu all day and night over a period ot time. Most experienced OCers have the experience from having gone through many systems. Not everyone can buy parts for a new build next week when something goes DOA on you.
 
PC eye said:
Even with temps down you place hidden stresses on hardwares when constantly ocing this or that. And yes it can easily shorten the life of hardwares since it is comparatible to placing a max load on a cpu all day and night over a period ot time. Most experienced OCers have the experience from having gone through many systems. Not everyone can buy parts for a new build next week when something goes DOA on you.
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If your PC is overclocked and you have it on all day it will downclock to save power when idle to long.. as long as you have that option on.

And what you say about experience is true.. sort of. One does gain experience from failure, but with that experience comes the knowledge to prevent or, at the very least, avoid the promblematic nature that makes up overclocking.

Anyways overclocking, in the hands of a capable person, is not dangerous to your system or it's various components, just my opinion.
 
well the 88ooGTX series is all Direct X10 arnt they? the one im buying says it is so i dont need to worry about it right?
 
hermeslyre said:
Not if you don't want to, that card is killer. :D
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haha yeah that card is good if u get the EVGA one thats like $1500 here in australia.. im getting the gigabyte version i dont know if i should :S this is the first time buying a desktop pc and im totaly confussed haha i dont know how u guys stay sooo upto date with everything.. hopeully when i have got enough money together i will post a thread stating ALL the parts im getting and u guys could tell me if its good or not good or anything i might need to change :)
 
XxSNIPERxX said:
haha yeah that card is good if u get the EVGA one thats like $1500 here in australia.. im getting the gigabyte version i dont know if i should :S this is the first time buying a desktop pc and im totaly confussed haha i dont know how u guys stay sooo upto date with everything.. hopeully when i have got enough money together i will post a thread stating ALL the parts im getting and u guys could tell me if its good or not good or anything i might need to change :)
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For the record, The different manufactures all use the same GPU given to them by NVIDIA/AMD. The only thing They do is put the card together using their own PCB board and transistors, etc. If you bought that $1500 dollar 8800, you would see no difference over the gigabyte. It would be a complete waste of monies.

(By the way I dig your avatar..brings back memories, lol)
 
hermeslyre said:
For the record, The different manufactures all use the same GPU given to them by NVIDIA/AMD. The only thing They do is put the card together using their own PCB board and transistors, etc. If you bought that $1500 dollar 8800, you would see no difference over the gigabyte. It would be a complete waste of monies.

(By the way I dig your avatar..brings back memories, lol)
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REALLY?!?! thats awsome to know because i was thinking of trying to come up with a few hundred more to get the more expenssive one :D

haha yeah its a cool pic.. whats it from? i just sdaw it on google image search and used it as my avatar :P
 
It's Sora from Kingdom Hearts! Only the greatest game ever based on Final fantasy And Disney! For the PS2, you really ought to try it. It's fantabulous.
 
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