Dual Xeon vs Dual Opteron

St)2ike)2

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My brother stumped me today by asking me which of these is better for video editing. Hopefully someone can shed some light on this for me. Naturally i would have to say that Intel offers better performance when multi-tasking - alot of which is done during video editing. Yet i dont know much about the AMD Opteron and how well it performs. Price is not a factor here. Its all about performance.

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Thanks in advance
 
I just read up on the X2 series. Interesting indeed....but could it really keep up with a dual 2.6 Xeon system?

The Athalon 64 X2 4800 2.4Ghz versus the Dual 2.6Ghz Xeon. Im looking for comparisons online but my efforts yield no success.

I would like to see which of the two are better and compare the winner to the Dual Opreton
 
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I found a post on neowin.net regarding the comparison between the X2 Series and the Dual Opteron system...

I personally have both a 4800+ system, and a dual opteron 252 system. Technically they should operate the same due to core speeds being the same and the like, but they simply dont.

The opteron can encode a full DVD to xvid in about an hour and a quarter (two pass, ac3), the x2 takes almost two hours, sometimes more.

Here are the reasons for that.

1) With a dual opteron you get two independant memory controllers, hence, double the memory BW
2) With a dually system you can get NUMA, thus increasing your memory bw even more, and boosting performance incredibly
3) The hypertranport chain used between two 2xx level opteron is double the bw of that used internally within the X2

In short, for video editing alone, a dual opteron box destroys an X2 system.

As for a recommendation of hardware, definately go with the Supermicro H8DCE for a motherboard. Its far superior to the K8WE that everyone raves about (ive used both). And then be sure to choose troy core opterons, as the SSE3 is a crucial element in most encoding programs.

This also leaves better upgrade possibilities as he could upgrade to two dualcore opterons at a later date, thus essentially having a 4 CPU box.

Let me make this clear, i am not advocating dual opterons for everyone, for the casual user or gamer, an X2 is a far better choice. However, for video editing opterons are untouchable.
 
I am looking for a processor that can quickly and efficiently handle the entire Adobe collection (Premiere Pro, After Effects, Audition, Photoshop CS2) in the worst case scenario - being all the programs run at once.

Just an example of course, it will have many other uses.
 
St)2ike)2 said:
I am looking for a processor that can quickly and efficiently handle the entire Adobe collection (Premiere Pro, After Effects, Audition, Photoshop CS2) in the worst case scenario - being all the programs run at once.

Just an example of course, it will have many other uses.
A dual core pentium chip p-d will handle these tasks fine. If you rich and hardcore look into pentium EE 840
Those rigs you listed are overpriced, and the xeons/opterons are server based chips.
If i were to compare the rigs for video editing the dual core xeon would be the better rig. But its not aimed at the desktop market, i.e. you

But your comparing a 4-way system with 2 dual opterons to a dual core x2, so not the best comparison in the world.

WoW not even one view in 40 minutes? C'mon people!!! I really need help!
We dont live here you know
 
WoW not even one view in 40 minutes? C'mon people!!! I really need help!
Thats because we dont live here to answer your questions and your questions alone.

I just read up on the X2 series. Interesting indeed....but could it really keep up with a dual 2.6 Xeon system?
Probably. Those Xeons are last generation and on a discontinued platform.

I personally have both a 4800+ system, and a dual opteron 252 system. Technically they should operate the same due to core speeds being the same and the like, but they simply dont.

The opteron can encode a full DVD to xvid in about an hour and a quarter (two pass, ac3), the x2 takes almost two hours, sometimes more.
Obviously the X2 and 252 arent going to operate in a similar manner! Just consider the massive bandwdith advantage the Opteron has and it makes perfect sense that it would outpower the X2

As far as I know, Opterons are server CPUs. Is that what you're looking for in particular?
Dont see how the fact that it's a server chip changes anything :)

A dual core pentium chip p-d will handle these tasks fine. If you rich and hardcore look into pentium EE 840
Would be interesting to see the PentiumEE840 go head to head against say, the Opteron275s .. naturally the Opterons would win but would be nice to see by how much of a margin

If i were to compare the rigs for video editing the dual core xeon would be the better rig
Unless im missing something, those arent dualcore Xeons.

and the xeons/opterons are server based chips
But its not aimed at the desktop market, i.e. you
Uh.... I run a dual opteron setup at home to do video processing ... and Im not running any fancy sever setup so i dont see how that matters.
 
Uh.... I run a dual opteron setup at home to do video processing ... and Im not running any fancy sever setup so i dont see how that matters.
are you really saying you are the average home user??
Unless im missing something, those arent dualcore Xeons.
my bad
Would be interesting to see the PentiumEE840 go head to head against say, the Opteron275s .. naturally the Opterons would win but would be nice to see by how much of a margin
huh... no doubt. but the 840 would handle the video editing tasks amicably :) I'm sure there is some googlable answer to the question however
 
are you really saying you are the average home user??
At no point does average home user have anything to do with the topic at hand: the first post is regarding a potential system to best process video and the options presented were just server chips.

huh... no doubt. but the 840 would handle the video editing tasks amicably I'm sure there is some googlable answer to the question however
Well the 275s have two memory controllers amoung four logical cores; the PentiumEE840 has a single memory controler amoung four cores :) (which one could say is a testiment to the bandwidth efficiency of the PentiumEE architecture)
 
I was not mad or dissapointed that no one looked at my thread. Many threads above and below mine were getting replies and mine recieved not even one view which i found surprising. My apologies if i made that post sound like my thread was the only one here.

apj101 said:
Those rigs you listed are overpriced, and the xeons/opterons are server based chips.

I have heard from many people (i.e. Praetor) that they have a dual Opteron system set up for their video editing needs. They are server based chips, but that does not mean they can be used in home workstations. I am really leaning toward the dual Opteron 250 or 252. Mainly now because i am convinced it will overpower and outperform the X2 4800.

About the price. I keep telling my brother that these sites he visits have overpriced rigs. I'm not sure if hes taking my advice, but its his money. I told him that i could probably put one together for him. I have no experience in dual processor systems but i am confident i can do it. Most importantly he could cut that outrageous $3700 in half!
 
yep these two processors are server processors. if u want something else u could try PDual core that would be best for video editing i think
 
O.K. i informed my brother about his options....and now he is thinking about getting a dual-dual core X2 4800+ system :eek:

Would it be possible to run a dual processor motherboard with only one processor? (upgrade to 2 later?)

i doubt he will want to spend $1400-1500 on processors alone :rolleyes:

thanks
 
I hate to say it but for video editing, BUY A freaking power mac G5 and install final cut pro. It’s ridiculously good at editing and rendering video. Heck I use that for my pro tools audio editing also. Macs blow pc’s away when it comes to video and audio editing.

Two dual-core 2.5GHz PowerPC G5 processors

1.25GHz frontside bus per processor

1MB L2 cache per core

512MB of 533MHz DDR2 SDRAM (PC2-4200)

250GB Serial ATA hard drive

16x SuperDrive (double-layer)

Three open PCI-Express expansion slots

NVIDIA GeForce 6600 with 256MB GDDR SDRAM


"THESE THINGS ARE THE JUNK!"
 
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