FrontPage 2003 Inquiry

sm100378

sm100378

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Hi,

I asked this question in the MS Office forum on microsoft.com and dont understand the response. Can someone please tell me what I have to do in order to see the alignment I am using in FP as the same on the web?

ALSO, WHEN I PREVIEW WHAT I DID WHILE IN FP, IT DOESNT LOOK THE SAME AS THE DESIGN VIEW WITHOUT PUBLISHING IT YET. Any ideas?

Thank you!


MY QUESTION:
I have my webpage created in FP2003. My problem is, for example, in order
for my webpage to look like the one I have saved in FP, I have to move a
table a few lines down to have it appear the same; however when I do this, my FP saved webpage is looking different. Does this make sense?
Also, my text is not in the same location. Is there a way to have it save
it "as seen" in FP so that it is viewable the same way on the web?

ANSWER RECEIVED:
In general, what you are asking for is not possible.
Each browser is different and will render a page differently to other
browsers (even the same version of a browser can be set up to render pages
differently to others). Each PC used to view the site can have different
settings - screen resolution (which sets the maximum width for the
browser), large fonts, small fonts, colour depth - so many variables.

The design (or normal) view in FrontPage is not WYSIWYG, it merely suggests
that What You See is What You Might Get If You Are Lucky. The ideal test
is preview in Browser, and use different browsers, with different browser
sizes.

As for your specific problem - links to the finished page, and the page as
originally designed should help to diagnose any problems.
 
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It's a fairly easy fix if I can understand you correctly. You have alignment and table issues right?

Do you have a link to your site or possibly even give us your coding? You will just have to set permanent values for your tables and assign them permanent locations on your page. As far as alignment and other things, that's probably easily fixable too.
 
Here is the link to my site (yes, I know it is a rr site, but I am in process of getting a domain...know any good and cheap hosting sites?

http://home.mn.rr.com/mas/



If you use mozilla, the tables are off, but in the site i recommend using IE, which is the right way of viewing...however in preview screen of FP, it is off so that it is normal in web view of IE.

Any help would be great. Absoolute positioniing? etc? I am not familiar with these commands, would they help?
 
Well, I checked out your page and the coding and alignment of everything looks identical. Nothing wrong. However..

Are you talking abou the space here?
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Hi,

A couple things ( It wont let me paste a printscreen for some reason)

1) Open both with Mozilla and IE6
---If you click ABOUT US, mozilla is spacing the bullet points out and in IE, the bullet points dont have any space, and neither does the preview in FP2003.

2) When I am working in FP2003, there is the design view and preview view. In design view
----it has a vertical scroll and in preview, it does not
----the box on top I needed to space the font very differently to make it look even in preview, as well as the website. For instance, Enrichment is on the second line of the table, as if you hit enter to make a second line, but you dont see it on the second line in preview or website. Therefore, the verticle design view is twice as big as the preview box.

To sum up, if I create it all in design view, it is not WYSIWYG. It needs to be adjusted just to make it look "right" if I were to upload to web, otherwise the fonts and some spacing (bullet points) would be off.

My question: Is there something like absolute reference or something of this kind, where what I see in design view WILL BE EXACTLY shown in preview, as right now it is not?


Thanks for any help.


P.S. What web hosting server sites do you recommend if I buy a domain from godaddy.com?
 
Well, now that you pointed that out.. I can see why.

However, this is the issue with IE and Firefox. They use different methods/engines to render pages and thus, some pages appear differently in Firefox. This is one of the reasons why most sites will require you to use IE and states that it will not be compatible with Firefox because of the different ways it produces the webpages.

Unfortunately, this isn't an issue with your HTML coding, but the two browsers themselves. You will either have to trust that they use IE to view your page if you want the coding to look exactly the way you want it, or vice cersa.
 
Interesting.....

So what is the reason for my "design view" page looking different in "preview view" page without uploading it yet? The table is double the height due to needing to put text on that line to make it 'even" in preview. I am clueless on ths one.




computerhakk said:
Well, now that you pointed that out.. I can see why.

However, this is the issue with IE and Firefox. They use different methods/engines to render pages and thus, some pages appear differently in Firefox. This is one of the reasons why most sites will require you to use IE and states that it will not be compatible with Firefox because of the different ways it produces the webpages.

Unfortunately, this isn't an issue with your HTML coding, but the two browsers themselves. You will either have to trust that they use IE to view your page if you want the coding to look exactly the way you want it, or vice cersa.
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sm100378 said:
Interesting.....

So what is the reason for my "design view" page looking different in "preview view" page without uploading it yet? The table is double the height due to needing to put text on that line to make it 'even" in preview. I am clueless on ths one.
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Can you get screenshots of this?

You can't paste the pictures on here, but paste them into paint and save it as a .gif or .jpg and upload it to photobucket, imageshack, or sixpop and give the link here. (if that's what you meant when you said u couldn't paste your screenshot earlier in your post).

I tried using your code on Frontpage but I don't see the difference. It's probably your original coding and if you can post the screenshot, it'll help.
 
Well, that's just the screen size of whoever is viewing your site.

In order for you to keep it like that all the time, you will just have to set a fixed size on the tables.

The reason that is happening is because if you go into your "Table Properties" (right click on your table) and look at the width. It is set to "Percent." This means that if someone was looking at your page and have their screen size at 1024, 640, etc... it'll occupy 99 percent of that space of the browser. An easy example is to go to:

FILE>PREVIEW IN BROWSER

select your browser. Once it shows up, resize your browser to something smaller/bigger and you'll see what I mean.

To solve the problem, go into your TABLE PROPERTIES again and instead of percent, check "pixel." Then specify something like 1000 or more. If it doesn't show up right like in the preview yet, make the number bigger. Keep in mind that most people have 1024x768 screen resolution.

I dont have the same font as you so it looks different in my browser. Thus, I can't give you the exact dimensions. Just play with that and it'll work for ya. Also, when you do this, if you resize your browser like I told you previously.. it'll keep its form and wont become smaller.
 
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