Geforce 6600 256mb CRASHES!!

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rohith

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Hi guys!
I recently bought a computer with the following specs:
Windows XP pro service pack 2)
Intel 915GAV express motherboard
Pentium 4 3.0 GHZ with HT Technology
512 MB DDR SDRAM
D-LINK 56K modem
XFX Nvidia GeForce 6600 PCI-e 256 MB DDR dual DVI graphics card(ForceWare v71.89)
Astronics black case
Sony CD/DVD/writer combo drive
Seagate Baracuda 80GB 7200RPM HD
philips 1500W Bass reflex speakers(Own power cable)
Samsung syncmaster 793s 17" monitor(1280x1024x32 85 hz)
sony floppy drive
Logitech internet keyboard and laser mouse(Cool!!)
scorpio LC-B500E PSU with following specs:
AC/ I/P : 115V/230V, 10/5A, 60/50 hz
DC O/P : +3.3V :28A
+5V :50A
+12V :18A
-12V :1.0A
-5V :0.8A
+5VSB :2.5A
+5V and +3v combined load 230W
+5V,+3.3v & +12V combined load 422W
Total output 500W maximum.
3 fans(one for the mobo, one for the power supply & one extra fan taken
from another case apparently for cooling the gpu, fitted onto the case,
not onto the gpu(The gpu doesnt have a fan of its own!!).

And here's the entire dxdiag report:
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System Information
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Time of this report: 5/9/2005, 18:13:05
Machine name: HOME
Operating System: Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 2 (2600.xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158)
Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: INTEL_
System Model: D915GAV_
BIOS: BIOS Date: 01/28/05 08:09:47 Ver: 08.00.10
Processor: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz (2 CPUs)
Memory: 510MB RAM
Page File: 326MB used, 524MB available
Windows Dir: C:WINDOWS
DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
DxDiag Version: 5.03.2600.2180 32bit Unicode

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DxDiag Notes
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DirectX Files Tab: No problems found.
Display Tab 1: No problems found.
Sound Tab 1: No problems found.
Music Tab: No problems found.
Input Tab: No problems found.
Network Tab: No problems found.

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DirectX Debug Levels
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Direct3D: 0/4 (n/a)
DirectDraw: 0/4 (retail)
DirectInput: 0/5 (n/a)
DirectMusic: 0/5 (n/a)
DirectPlay: 0/9 (retail)
DirectSound: 0/5 (retail)
DirectShow: 0/6 (retail)

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Display Devices
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Card name: NVIDIA GeForce 6600
Manufacturer: NVIDIA
Chip type: GeForce 6600
DAC type: Integrated RAMDAC
Device Key: EnumPCIVEN_10DE&DEV_0141&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_A2
Display Memory: 256.0 MB
Current Mode: 1024 x 768 (32 bit) (60Hz)
Monitor: Plug and Play Monitor
Monitor Max Res: 1600,1200
Driver Name: nv4_disp.dll
Driver Version: 6.14.0010.7189 (English)
DDI Version: 9 (or higher)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Driver Date/Size: 4/1/2005 16:16:00, 3980288 bytes
WHQL Logo'd: Yes
WHQL Date Stamp: n/a
VDD: n/a
Mini VDD: nv4_mini.sys
Mini VDD Date: 4/1/2005 16:16:00, 3454656 bytes
Device Identifier: {D7B71E3E-4201-11CF-A57F-0A2003C2CB35}
Vendor ID: 0x10DE
Device ID: 0x0141
SubSys ID: 0x00000000
Revision ID: 0x00A2
Revision ID: 0x00A2
Video Accel: ModeMPEG2_A ModeMPEG2_B ModeMPEG2_C ModeMPEG2_D ModeWMV9_B ModeWMV9_A
Registry: OK
DDraw Status: Enabled
D3D Status: Enabled
AGP Status: Enabled
DDraw Test Result: Not run
D3D7 Test Result: Not run
D3D8 Test Result: Not run
D3D9 Test Result: Not run
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Done with the specs!!
(Note: throughout this post, for every game played, i have set the
nvidia performance and quality settings to high quality with no
optimizations and i have used ONLY directx 9.0c and no vsync. I do run
Norton Antivirus autoprotect in the background though.)

PART1,THE PROBLEMS:
Now, the problem is with my graphics card.
I got my pc late at night so i tested only nfs ug and fifa 2004(for
five minutes) before going to bed.
The next day i got up and switched on the pc and ug ran fine with the
highest settings. But after an hour or two i started playing comanche 4
and THATS when this all started. I played for a few minutes(1280x1024x32
4xAA,8xAF) and everything was fine(framerate was good too) but after a
few minutes of explosions(cool!), i hear an EXTREMELY LOUD noise from the
extra fan installed by the guy who assembled my pc(from now on known as
"The Guy") and it keeps increasing. a few minutes after this the game
crashes and i get an error message like this:







I clicked on send error report and it just sends but it doesnt give any
extra info. And also while playing Fifa 2004 for more than 20 minutes,
the WHOLE SYSTEM CRASHES and on restarting i get the error message
entitled "Your system has just recovered from a serious error".(And oh
yes just before restarting i got a black screen for 1 second with
something about memory).So i clicked on send error report which pointed me
to a MS webpage where they said it was a problem with the drivers(I had forceware
66.81 at the time). So i downloaded version 71.89 and the fifa 2004
problem was solved(Thank God!!).
But suprise!suprise!. comanche 4 still crashes and gives the same error
(although at lower resolutions it takes longer to crash).
I start up Activision's spiderman and all i get is a black screen
for a second and then i get a similar error message to that of comanche
4!! Even NFS 5 at the highest settings ran well sometimes but sometimes
readily crashed(I alt-tabbed the game and it crashed instantly with the
same error message)I used fraps to see the framerate and at one time it
went down all the way to 10 fps!!(Maybe it has something to do with the
fact that i was racing along with 7 opponents, all of us having the
same ViperGTS car downloaded from nfscars.net(The geometry file along
with textures is about 8.4MB, so thats around 67.2mb of car geometry
data plus 5mb for the track geometry at any one time of the race)
Next i tried NFS ug and the thing is it ran fine at the highest settings
along with motion blur and light trails(about 30 fps)!!. Once i ran it
for about 5 hours continuously without a single problem( Of course the
fan was still rattling away LOUDLY and i mean LOUD!!)
So then i checked whether the card had a problem running games which
ran using earlier versions of directx but this myth was expelled when
i ran both cricket 2002 and f1 2002 for around 1 hour each and i had
no problems(Even while alt-tabbing). I next ran MotoGP2 at the highest
settings and boy was it cool!!!(Absolutely no problems!!).

PART2, What i tried and failed to do about them:
Well i first inspected the mobo installation cd and i found intel
desktop utilities, which also has hardware monitoring features.(I
wanted to check whether the CPU was getting over heated).
Next i enabled temperature monitoring for my gpu through the bios.
The next morning as soon as windows loaded, i checked the idle
temperature of the gpu and what do i get??



I played comanche 4 and it reached a peak of 69 degrees
celsius. After playing for sometime the game minimizes and i get a
warning from intel desktop utility saying "System zone 2 temperature
has exceeded the acceptable limit. The thing is, i can now maximise my
game and continue as if nothing happened!!(although i consistently
get warnings throughout the game). Apparently the errors(in part1) are
randomized and have nothing to do with the gpu temperature.( I said
APPARENTLY! If any of you think this is the case then youre welcome to
prove me wrong!!). Sometimes the games crash immediately and sometimes
they take around 30 minutes to crash. The funny part is when i
played f1 2002 the temperature touched 73C and when i played nfs ug it
didnt cross 69C.(All this was done while the card was overclocked by 150
mhz. I then underclocked it and tried all these games again with the
same results but with lower fps) Could it be a problem with SP2?
Or the card itself?(But i dont think so because i ran it on several high
end games including LOTR:WOTR and THE TITANS with no problems) Or is it
the PSU? Or the temperatures? Please help!!

Part3, possible problems to be resolved:

1)PSU(If this is the problem please suggest a good PSU)
2)Temperature (If so please suggest some good methods to cool not only
the Gcard but also the entire CPU. Anynthing around $60 or less is ok)
3)Service pack2
4)Memory conflict(if so please suggest what to do with clear instructions)
5)Defective card??!

Im just hoping its anything but choice 4.
Please reply as soon as possible.
Any help would be really appreciated.
Cheers!!










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If you look at your board with the I/O panel facing away form you system zone 2 is located by the right side of the CPU socket, near the left side a black chip that is about 1/2"-3/4" long.
That error message you are getting is some sort of memory reference error (it comes from the game trying to write somewhere it's not allowed to, but it's more complicated than saying the game is at fault).
 
rohith said:
The funny part is when i
played f1 2002 the temperature touched 73C and when i played nfs ug it
didnt cross 69C.
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just to clarify is that the gfx card temp or the cpu temp, either way it is wayyyyy to high, thinking that 73°c is room temparature away from boiling point
 
It's high, but most modern video cards are designed for those temperatures, the slowdown threshold of the 6600 is 145 degress be default.
 
Cromewell said:
It's high, but most modern video cards are designed for those temperatures, the slowdown threshold of the 6600 is 145 degress be default.
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:eek: seems a little high, but graphics cards were never my strong point
 
Yes I thought/think it's too high as well, but I'm not an nVidia engineer so all I can do is change the threshold to something lower but the stock cooling system (provided it is still attached properly) keeps the card cool enough.
 
Cromewell said:
If you look at your board with the I/O panel facing away form you system zone 2 is located by the right side of the CPU socket, near the left side a black chip that is about 1/2"-3/4" long.
That error message you are getting is some sort of memory reference error (it comes from the game trying to write somewhere it's not allowed to, but it's more complicated than saying the game is at fault).
Click to expand...

So what the hell should i do now???? :confused:
And what should i do about the gpu heating up(VERY occasionaly, i get
some sort of white lines ie. graphics corruption while playing some games.and i said VERRRRY occasionaly.)Im a complete noob to this overheating thing and so could someone please recommend what gadgets to get?. I also found that MOST of the time(80%) nfs 5 crashes when ever i alt-tab to the desktop.(it also crashes sometimes while racing too). And comanche 4 crashes randomly (but there is some sort of pattern, maybe to do with the
EXTRA fan making a HELL of a noise{AS already mentioned the GPU doesnt have a fan of its own. Is that good???)).Please Help!!!
 
Ive also found out this: Nfs 5 ALWAYS(NOT MOST of the time) gives an error on alt-tabbing like this:



Whats up with the d3dim700.dll? is this a problem with my gfx card or with
something else(maybe os?). I dont have any problems while playing NFS UG! :confused:
 
Well i removed the graphics card and sent it to be checked for any defects and now i am playing my games with onboard graphics(dont laugh) and im still getting the same errors(i also uninstalled SP2 with no avail) so what do you think it is now? Should i format my hard drive and do a fresh install of xp pro or is it a problem with directx 9.0c (corrupted installation????) or could it be my ram(ofcourse i ran windows memory diagnostic and still didnt get any errors).
What should I do about it? Please help!!!
 
try reinstalling DX9, then if the problem is still there try running memtest86 (you need a floppy or cd to boot from for it)
 
I ran 2 passes of memtest 86 version 3(one with ecc and the other without) and i got absolutely no errors. I just now installed NAV 2004 and I found 5 viruses in my computer. gotta delete them and then ill check if the games are running and get back to you.(Just to remind you these crashes occur only for NFS 5, Comanche 4, and spiderman)Please reply soon!!
 
All I've got left is try updating every driver you've got and patching the games (if you haven't already). Have you tried going to the respective games developers (for the games that are still being supported) to try and see what's up?
 
well i have the all the latest drivers and bios installed(except for onboard sound which probably isnt the problem as i disabled the audio and tried and still got the same errors) Apparently there isnt any patch for spiderman and im already using the latest version of comanche 4 demo(no more patches available) and ive patched NFS 5 to the latest version. the thing is all these games ran fine on my old hp pavilion 8665(still have it) with intel 82810e onboard graphics and 128 mb of SDRAM. Ive noticed another thing, when i increase the resolution of the game it crashes quicker than at lower resolutions(though 40% of the time it is random). only spiderman crashes instantly(I set it in compatability mode for win 95 and it took it a bit longer to crash though it DID crash) Do you think my processor is overheating? even with the graphics card removed the temperatures are near the threshold. do you think it has something to do with the fact that i live in chennai where the current maximum temperature is 42C?
 
If things are getting to hot it could be the source of your problems, heat tends to make things behave unpredictably and unstably
 
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