Half-life lost coast 2

Xycron

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On high settings it gets kind of choppy, could having a crapy Intel Celeron D 2.8ghz cause this? I'm thinking(Okay, more like HOPING since its getting replaced soon) that maybe it is. I dont know how CPU intensive it is, or any game for that matter.

Other spec's
2GB(2x1gb) of DDR333 ram
geforce 6200 OCed 256Mb

And why do i have a feeling everyone is going to say to upgrade the Vcard? It seems to me as long as the tech can support it, its not the low end ram version, and your other specs are fine your game runs fine without the "better" video card"Everyone was always telling me to upgrade my video card, but al i have to say is uprgading my ram was the best thing that even happend to me :P helps alot more then the vcard after, NO choppeyness at all, and a nice fps on all of my games that my vcard could "support" MX440 128mb


Anyway's, how CPu intensive is HL:LC? and when i get a 939 AMD A64 will this most likly go away?
 
Xycron said:
On high settings it gets kind of choppy, could having a crapy Intel Celeron D 2.8ghz cause this? I'm thinking(Okay, more like HOPING since its getting replaced soon) that maybe it is. I dont know how CPU intensive it is, or any game for that matter.

Other spec's
2GB(2x1gb) of DDR333 ram
geforce 6200 OCed 256Mb

And why do i have a feeling everyone is going to say to upgrade the Vcard? It seems to me as long as the tech can support it, its not the low end ram version, and your other specs are fine your game runs fine without the "better" video card"Everyone was always telling me to upgrade my video card, but al i have to say is uprgading my ram was the best thing that even happend to me :P helps alot more then the vcard after, NO choppeyness at all, and a nice fps on all of my games that my vcard could "support" MX440 128mb


Anyway's, how CPu intensive is HL:LC? and when i get a 939 AMD A64 will this most likly go away?

i can run it on my computer(specs in sig) on high settings but it gets choppy here and there and in the task manager my cpu usage is between 60 and 100%. the videocard might be the problem but it is more likely the cpu. and when you get a a new amd cpu it should go away if you get a new videocard to go with it. like a 6600 gt or 6800 gt.
 
yea, i dont like any of your specs. the worst in that situation is the video card though definitely. is your ram ddr400 or 333? it says in your post 333, but your signature says 400!
 
fade2green514 said:
yea, i dont like any of your specs. the worst in that situation is the video card though definitely. is your ram ddr400 or 333? it says in your post 333, but your signature says 400!

I dont care weather you like me spec's or not, you post has nothing to do with the question and contributes to this thread 0%. There are a total of THREE different people who post on this account. the sig is for the main person's who has DDR400, I have DDR333 because It only cost 1/3th of the price. Plus I slightly OCed it, and at elast it has nice timing's C lat is 2. Plus I like them myself, this is the only thing thats its choppy on at all and I havn''t got a new cpu yet.


I also have to say how you find my vcard worse in the spec's, the CPU SUCKS, come on a celeron? haha, but its iall really just opinoins.
 
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Hmmm

Your RAM is not a problem at all, or at least should not be in my opinion. The difference in DDR333 and DDR400 is negligible. Now, as to the graphics card, that will most likely be the largest bottleneck. As far as I know, and after having tried Lost Coast 2, I can tell you that it is definitely CPU intensive. The physics are amazing and that undoubtedly means that the CPU has to calculate that. The VPU you have is, I have to say, not sufficient enought to expect smooth gameplay at maximum settings. I for example have an Athlon 64 3000+ (1.8Ghz stock) overclocked to 2.6Ghz (4000+ level) and a 6600GT and I could play it fine. However, I still think that if you updated the CPU to a A64 as you mentioned, you would still experience choppiness because of the VPU. Sorry, but that's my opinion and I stand by it.

JAN :D
 
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Thanks for the opinon. I guess i'll live with choppyness on high settings on a game thats not really a game... I was just hopeing so i could say that it could, for pride of myself LOL!
 
Well..

How high is your 6200 clocked to? I don't really know the specifications because I have seen some 6200s Clocked at 350/700 and others ar 350/550.

JAN :D
 
lol, hopefully I can, as far as i know this is the best vcard i could get without gettinga PCI-E socket, everything above i could only find in PCI-E Except one 6600 but i didn't want to pay for it, way overpriced. Plus this was a 256MB version, PLus is was a OCed version, PLus it was extramly cheap from someone trying to sell locally without shipping. It was also brand new.



Edit:Also since well i dont want to make a new thread, how much do you think OCing the vcard could make a difference? If i Oced it further then the OC default? Would it be worth it?
 
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Wow, While trying to get my sound working again properly i relized i never set my agp slot to use more then 128mb in the bios, i have it set to 256mb, so maybe that'll make a difference? I'll find out when i get my sound working lol, I cant live without my sound....
 
On high settings it gets kind of choppy, could having a crapy Intel Celeron D 2.8ghz cause this? I'm thinking(Okay, more like HOPING since its getting replaced soon) that maybe it is. I dont know how CPU intensive it is, or any game for that matter.
Hehe ive got HL-TLC sitting on my desk but i cant bring myself to install it on any of the comps (ranging from CeleronD to dual-opteron) so i cant give you a realworld answer but I would imagine TLC is based of the HL2 engine .... which is CPU bound ... which would explain your problems :). Of course looking at your VC, that's prolly the real bottleneck -- HL2 is CPU bound -- but not THAT CPU bound

And why do i have a feeling everyone is going to say to upgrade the Vcard?
because you should

It seems to me as long as the tech can support it, its not the low end ram version, and your other specs are fine your game runs fine without the "better" video card"Everyone was always telling me to upgrade my video card, but al i have to say is uprgading my ram was the best thing that even happend to me helps alot more then the vcard after, NO choppeyness at all, and a nice fps on all of my games that my vcard could "support" MX440 128mb
1. MX440 is a DX7 card
2. Anyone (not just you, so no i not singling you out, ive seen comments like that before) who thinks a low end card is gonna be able to hold a candle to the high-mid cards is an idiot or sincerely misinformed.
3. If you dont have choppy problems then why this thread?

Anyway's, how CPu intensive is HL:LC? and when i get a 939 AMD A64 will this most likly go away?
Not bound enough to maximize hamper your 6200. Consider ths for a second ... my CeleronD 2.8 box can handle FEAR (albeit after 5 minutes as it caches in cuz ive only got 512MB ram in it right now) -- at 1024x768 4xAA 8xAF (could do 1280x1024 too) -- because I've got a 6800GT in it. Interpret what you want.

I'm not going to upgrade the vcard anytime soon.
Your loss

I dont care weather you like me spec's or not, you post has nothing to do with the question and contributes to this thread 0%
Oh dont make me dig up your posts that contribute nothing.

I also have to say how you find my vcard worse in the spec's, the CPU SUCKS, come on a celeron? haha, but its iall really just opinoins.
I dont know which of the three personalities posted that but that person is a moron.

any other opinoins? Only heard from one worth while?
keep it up and this thread gonna go nighty.

I was just hopeing so i could say that it could, for pride of myself LOL!
Oh I understand about pride and all ... but lets not let pride get in the way of logic

375/800 its a OCed by default model.
What make and model OCs their memory to 800MHz -- more like 400MHz and DDR800. Regardless, *even* if it's 128bit memory at 800Mhz, you've got 12.8GB/s memory bandwidth -- whoppy (more likely it's 400Mhz meaning 6.4GB/s ... compare that to a 6600GT which is a fair midrange card -- 16GB/s) -- I'm NOT raggin on your card -- I'm stating facts

lol, hopefully I can, as far as i know this is the best vcard i could get without gettinga PCI-E socket
Um ... 6600s, 6800s, X800s, X850s come in AGP flavors

Edit:Also since well i dont want to make a new thread, how much do you think OCing the vcard could make a difference? If i Oced it further then the OC default? Would it be worth it?
It would help yes but not make a world of difference: you're still limited to 4 pixel shaders which isnt a whole lots -- thats what makes games so fancy these days -- pixel shaders.



The summary of all my comments is, sure, the CPU could use an upgrade however:
- The game isnt cpu bound enough to limit your videocard
- A 6200, being a 4x2 card, is gonna choke when it has to process lots of shaders -- which is the foundation for HL2 as well as any neato new games that will come out
- CeleronD's can play games fine -- and with 2GB of RAM you're more than fine on the CPU/RAM front -- you're problem IS the 6200 whether your pride gets bruised or not, thats a fact. You would need to clock your core to like 800MHz to compensate.

As I said earlier, I not here to shit on anyone's machine ... but the fact here is that a 6200 is going to hold the CPU back rather than the CPU holding the VC back. My logic? You said "high settings". For the most part that means high video settings -- the last time I checked, videocards handled video processing and CPUs did physics processing ... now to confirm this, run the game at very low resolution and turn off all the details and crap and you notice something: it plays smoother.
 
Xycron said:
On high settings it gets kind of choppy, could having a crapy Intel Celeron D 2.8ghz cause this? I'm thinking(Okay, more like HOPING since its getting replaced soon) that maybe it is. I dont know how CPU intensive it is, or any game for that matter.

Other spec's
2GB(2x1gb) of DDR333 ram
geforce 6200 OCed 256Mb

And why do i have a feeling everyone is going to say to upgrade the Vcard? It seems to me as long as the tech can support it, its not the low end ram version, and your other specs are fine your game runs fine without the "better" video card"Everyone was always telling me to upgrade my video card, but al i have to say is uprgading my ram was the best thing that even happend to me :P helps alot more then the vcard after, NO choppeyness at all, and a nice fps on all of my games that my vcard could "support" MX440 128mb


Anyway's, how CPu intensive is HL:LC? and when i get a 939 AMD A64 will this most likly go away?

Yes it's a pretty CPU bound game, but your 6200 oc or not isn't going to run lost coast at an acceptable framerate. Sure the CeleronD 2.8Ghz isn't the best gaming CPU out there but it's much better than people think, pretty much comparable with the P4B. It's capable of running this game no doubt (experience).

Your #1 priority should be to upgrade the your video to at least a 6600 vanilla.
 
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