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Kane84

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I have a HP a1700n http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/..._usen_c-001_title_r0001&lc=en&product=3339286

I am looking to get two displays for this computer one display is my monitor and the other on my 42 inch hdtv which has HDMI and componets that I can use because I have other stuff hooked up to the rest of the input I was thinking a male to female vga y splitter and a vga to hdmi cable is this possible or can someone give another idea also I has a usb wifi adaptor connected to my pc I don't want to use a media streamer unless I really have to and I am looking to do this or watching stuff on a bigger screen
 
That won't be possible because VGA is analog and HDMI is digital. What you can do is to get a video card with VGA/DVI/HDMI ports on it.
 
Twiki said:
Yeah it does, you get more details.
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How does a memory bus influence detail quality in a desktop environment?
That's like saying a 5 GB video file looks better if it's transferred at 500 MB/sec instead of 250 MB/sec.

You might 'have more detail' by having less of a memory bottleneck therefore not impacting the framerate in 3d intensive environments and able to run higher settings, but that's not the aspect we're discussing.
 
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I don't know but I saw the difference between a 64 bit and an 128 bit on my PC. The difference is the bandwidth.
 
You don't know anything don't you? 128 bit gives you more color details per pixel than the 64 bit and that results in better picture. Since we are using HD technology you won't get the potential with the 64 bit.

256 is better than 128 and 384 is better than 256. As I said I saw the difference on my own monitor when I upgraded from 64 bit to 128 bit and I suggested that you don't go lower than 128 bit for HD.
 
Kane84 said:
I have a HP a1700n http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/..._usen_c-001_title_r0001&lc=en&product=3339286

I am looking to get two displays for this computer one display is my monitor and the other on my 42 inch hdtv which has HDMI and componets that I can use because I have other stuff hooked up to the rest of the input I was thinking a male to female vga y splitter and a vga to hdmi cable is this possible or can someone give another idea also I has a usb wifi adaptor connected to my pc I don't want to use a media streamer unless I really have to and I am looking to do this or watching stuff on a bigger screen
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Need to get a video card. How much are you wanting to spend and what do you do with computer? You cant go to far, its got a pretty low end power supply. Plus its a pretty old computer so depending on what you do, it would just bottleneck a better card.

Twiki said:
The difference is the bandwidth.
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Correct


Twiki said:
You don't know anything don't you? 128 bit gives you more color details per pixel than the 64 bit and
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Wrong.

128 bit just has twice the amount of data traces. It technically can transfer twice the amount of data in the same amount of time. If passing a large amount of data between the GPU and onboard memory a 64 bit bus can lag a lot more then a 128 bit bus. But has nothing to do with color detail per pixel.
 
Twiki said:
You don't know anything don't you? 128 bit gives you more color details per pixel than the 64 bit and that results in better picture. Since we are using HD technology you won't get the potential with the 64 bit.

256 is better than 128 and 384 is better than 256. As I said I saw the difference on my own monitor when I upgraded from 64 bit to 128 bit and I suggested that you don't go lower than 128 bit for HD.
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LOL what, no it doesn't. The rate at which VRAM can be accessed has nothing to do with the quality. Performance and image quality are different.
 
You do know that article is using the term bandwidth as in the memory data traces/bits, memory clocks and memory type as in DDR/DDR2/GDDR3/4 as a whole. The memory traces as in 64/128/256 bit has nothing to do itself with color details per pixel.
 
Right and the higher the bit the more detail it can deliver because of bandwidth and I don't mean just color but more shades of color.

As I said I saw the difference with my 64 bit and my 128 cards. I was watching a movie on my PC and I didn't like how the picture looked and also the text was hard to read. After I replaced the card with a 128 bit card I saw the text as crisp and the movie looked a lot better because I can see the details.

I forgot what model the 64 bit card was but I think it was 512 meg. I replaced it with a 1 gig DDR3 128 bit. Later I replaced that with a 1 gig GDDR5 128 bit and the picture quality is the same but it was faster.
 
So to continue completely derailing this thread trying to prevent obvious misinformation:

Sigh, Twiki you are ridiculous. If that were actually the case, why doesn't everyone still use cards like a 2900XT with 512-bit memory bus?

Twiki said:
the higher the bit the more detail it can deliver because of bandwidth
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If that is your argument then you would have noticed 'more detail' by using the GDDR5 card, which likely had at least 50%+ more bandwidth than the DDR3 card you replaced.

You can't even remember your previous video card, what makes you qualified in any degree to discuss GPU architecture?
 
Twiki said:
Right and the higher the bit the more detail it can deliver because of bandwidth and I don't mean just color but more shades of color.

As I said I saw the difference with my 64 bit and my 128 cards. I was watching a movie on my PC and I didn't like how the picture looked and also the text was hard to read. After I replaced the card with a 128 bit card I saw the text as crisp and the movie looked a lot better because I can see the details.

I forgot what model the 64 bit card was but I think it was 512 meg. I replaced it with a 1 gig DDR3 128 bit. Later I replaced that with a 1 gig GDDR5 128 bit and the picture quality is the same but it was faster.
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Trust me, you're imagining it. 24 bit gives 16,777,216 colours for true photographic image quality, so let me tell you once more, you cannot tell the difference between even 24bit address space and even 64bit address space in terms of pixels or colour....
 
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