Hey, new comp build

[Straps]

Hey yall,
Ive been stuck woth some pretty generic comp for a while and decided to just build one myself. Ive done some simple repairs so i know the basi gist of it, and have a couple of friends who are pretty good to help. I just wanted to get some opinions on a build im looking at. My budget is around 1200 and heres what i came up with thus far. I'm looking to do gaming and be able to run adobe master suite, for film editing and what not.

thermaltake level 10 case

Asus crosshair V Formula-Z am3+ amd 990fx sata 6gb usb 3.o atx amd gaming motherboard

Amd fx-8150 zambezi 3.6 ghz socket am3+ 125 watt eight core processor

sapphire flex 100352flex-2 radeonn hd 7950 3 gb 384-bit gddr5 pci express 3.0 x16

gskill ripjaws x series 8 gb 249 pind ddr3 sdram ddr3 1600 memory.

power source is a thermaltake smart seires 850 watt

for the time being I have 500gb harddrive with windows xp until i can get an update, a couple monitors and a couple drives i can hook in. Any suggestions on how this looks and what i may want to upgrade or downgrade is appreciative.

 

[Straps]

And on a side note, i would mind being able to dual boot with ios so if theres any suggetions on keeping it game worthy and being a hackentosh, thats would be welcome also.

 

[Okedokey]

The 8150 is a POS for almost everything, so I would suggest getting a low end sandy bridge if you can. It will also not work with hackintosh, nor good for gaming, nor good for video editing.

AMD graphics cards don't use CUDA therefore cannot accelerate CS5/6.

If you're using CS5/6 then get a nvidia card as the internal rendering modules will use CUDA (Mercury Playback Engine) making it significantly faster.

You don't need an 850W psu.

If you're doing video editing get more RAM (from experience, 8GB is insufficient)

Id get:

Windows 7 64bit - $139

Graphics Card - $310 (GTX670)

CPU - $214 (intel 3570)

Motherboard - $187 (gigabyte z77)

RAM - $99 (16GB fast ram)

Case - whatever you want

HDD - $94 (1TB WD red)

PSU - $89 (Seasonic 620W)

Total price $1,132 without case.

Spend 70 bucks on a case of your choice, 1200 budget, a beast of computer for video editing and will play any game on the market.

This will rape your first system. Use CUDA for CS and work with hackintosh (AMD wont).

 

[Straps]

Thanks, I'll check those out. glad I decided to check on it first.

 

[AlienMenace]

You know, I really like this forum. But, with all you Intel fan boys out here. I have a FX-8120 in my machine and I am very satisfied with it. I have no trouble gaming with it and do video and audio recording with it also with no troubles. I have been in computer since the late 1980's and I had a few Intel's. But for me AMD won out.

 

[Okedokey]

You know, I really like this forum. But, with all you Intel fan boys out here. I have a FX-8120 in my machine and I am very satisfied with it. I have no trouble gaming with it and do video and audio recording with it also with no troubles. I have been in computer since the late 1980's and I had a few Intel's. But for me AMD won out.

Did you read the OP's requirements? Think not.

Even then, for the same money (less) you can get better. Nothing fan boy about that. What a 'fan boy' is, is disregarding the facts for brand. Ive never done that.

Plus for what he needs to do, AMD cannot do it.

sheesh.

Put another way, show me an AMD based system (cpu and gpu) that can encode video, play games, run hackintosh and CUDA?? Doesn't exist.

The 8120 is hot, under-performing, draws loads of power, and you can get an intel for the same price (cheaper) that is much better (as shown above).

AMD gpus don't offer CUDA which is the basis of gpu acceleration in CS5/6 (an OP requirement)

AMD cannot run hackintosh (an OP requirement). Mackintosh's run on intel.

Fail.

 

[spirit]

You know, I really like this forum. But, with all you Intel fan boys out here. I have a FX-8120 in my machine and I am very satisfied with it. I have no trouble gaming with it and do video and audio recording with it also with no troubles. I have been in computer since the late 1980's and I had a few Intel's. But for me AMD won out.

This says it all really http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/434?vs=701 as you can see, the FX-8150 looks pretty poor next to the i5 3570K - especially when you remember that the i5 is a quad-core and the 8150 an octa-core.

If you're going to go AMD, then I'd look into getting yourself an FX-8320 and overclocking it. It's a much better part than the older 8120/8150 and is newer anyway, so really there is no reason to buy the 8120 or the 8150 now when you can get the much better 8320. http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/434?vs=697

If you're seriously into editing video though, the i5 3570K will be all right, but I'd probably steer you more towards the i7 3770K. It's a quad-core but it has 8 threads, so it is more suited to video editing. Those extra threads may help you out. You can use it with the same board Bigfella recommended and if you get an aftermarket cooler you can overclock it too.

However, the 3770K is more expensive than the 3570K and the 8320. If you're on a strict budget, I'd choose either the 3570K or the 8320, but if you can spend the extra, for sure get the 3770K.

By the way, the forum rules prevent us from discussing Hackintoshes in depth:

Discussion of any of the following is NOT allowed at Computer Forum:
Installation of a Macintosh operating system on a PC, also know as a "Hackintosh" system.

 

[Okedokey]

This says it all really http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/434?vs=701 as you can see, the FX-8150 looks pretty poor next to the i5 3570K - especially when you remember that the i5 is a quad-core and the 8150 an octa-core.

If you're going to go AMD, then I'd look into getting yourself an FX-8320 and overclocking it. It's a much better part than the older 8120/8150 and is newer anyway, so really there is no reason to buy the 8120 or the 8150 now when you can get the much better 8320. http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/434?vs=697

If you're seriously into editing video though, the i5 3570K will be all right, but I'd probably steer you more towards the i7 3770K. It's a quad-core but it has 8 threads, so it is more suited to video editing. Those extra threads may help you out. You can use it with the same board Bigfella recommended and if you get an aftermarket cooler you can overclock it too.

However, the 3770K is more expensive than the 3570K and the 8320. If you're on a strict budget, I'd choose either the 3570K or the 8320, but if you can spend the extra, for sure get the 3770K.

By the way, the forum rules prevent us from discussing Hackintoshes in depth:

What everyone seems to miss, is CS5/6 renders on the GPU. No need for a K version or a higher end CPU. The 670 will own any CPU for rendering video. But the 3570 will own the AMD in gaming and support his needs massively easier, whilst being cooler, less power draw and faster (all for less money).

BTW, the rules must have changed, wasn't there last time i checked. But anyway, we're not discussing it in depth and in fact its a widely discussed concept that isn't illegal. Thanks for pointing that out btw.

 

[spirit]

What everyone seems to miss, is CS5/6 renders on the GPU. No need for a K version or a higher end CPU. The 670 will own any CPU for rendering video. But the 3570 will own the AMD in gaming and support his needs massively easier, whilst being cooler, less power draw and faster (all for less money).

In that case, go for the 3570 or the 3770. I'd take either of those over the AMD anyway.

 

[AlienMenace]

Did you read the OP's requirements? Think not.

Even then, for the same money (less) you can get better. Nothing fan boy about that. What a 'fan boy' is, is disregarding the facts for brand. Ive never done that.

Plus for what he needs to do, AMD cannot do it.

sheesh.

Put another way, show me an AMD based system (cpu and gpu) that can encode video, play games, run hackintosh and CUDA?? Doesn't exist.

The 8120 is hot, under-performing, draws loads of power, and you can get an intel for the same price (cheaper) that is much better (as shown above).

AMD gpus don't offer CUDA which is the basis of gpu acceleration in CS5/6 (an OP requirement)

AMD cannot run hackintosh (an OP requirement). Mackintosh's run on intel.

Fail.

my 8120 is o/c to 4.1 and it runs at 30c and 50 on load.
And if u want to run a mac, but one then.

 

[Okedokey]

my 8120 is o/c to 4.1 and it runs at 30c and 50 on load.
And if u want to run a mac, but one then.

So what? Its still slower than even a 2500K at stock.

But yeah, what is the ambient temp? Run it at 4.1 with prime 95 burn test for 30 minutes then show us the temp.

Secondly, if you want a discussion about the merits of amd processors create one, but in this case, AMD cannot do what the OP needs.

With the addition of numbers for the Intel Core i3-2100 and Core i5-2400 in some of our benchmarks, it's plain to see that even with a price cut, the FX-8120 struggles in most of our tests. In very multi-threaded tests such as Cinebench and WPrime, it just about manages to hold its own against the similarly-priced Intel Core i5-2400 - slightly ahead in WPrime, a little behind in Cinebench and noticeably faster than the cheaper Core i3-2100. The Core i5-3570K is much faster in both tests

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/cpus/2012/07/27/amd-fx-8120-review/8

it's clear from our results that the FX-8120 isn't a great buy for games either. The Intel CPU was 60 per cent faster in Arma II

The FX-8120 just isn't a good choice when it comes to the kind of applications we run on our PCs. It's regularly outpaced by far cheaper Intel dual-core CPUs, while the similarly-priced Intel Core i5-2400 is significantly faster in many of our tests.

As it stands, the FX-8120 will have to be a lot cheaper for it to be worth considering over an equivalently-priced Intel setup, while owners of the Phenom II X6 1100T Black Edition can rest assured that there aren't any worthwhile upgrades yet.

 

[Straps]

So i was looking at the motherboard and was looking at getting the wifi version, its About 10 dollars more, but wanted to know if anyone knows how well it receives signal. Or if it would be better to just buy an additional wifi receiver. I have one thats alriht but wouldnt mind a better one.

 

[EvanK]

My P8Z77-V Pro gets a decent signal, but no better than my phone or tablet. Of course, I'm speaking on behalf of one Asus board, I'm not sure what the Gigabytes are like (and I'd recommend sticking to Gigabyte as for whatever reason, they generally work better with certain non Windows operating systems, not naming any in particular ). If it's only $10 more and your router is relatively close, you should be fine, but I'd recommend using Ethernet any day of the week.

 

[Straps]

Unfortunately direct connection is not available at this time, my rooms in the attic and no canle up there yet, my current router gets a decent signal from the router, i just like the built in ones so less junk on my desk