Hook my 360 up to my computer and take screenshots without a TV tuner?

bamhm182

bamhm182

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I was wondering if there would be ANY way that I could possibly hook my Xbox 360 up to my Computer and take screenshots of it like I could do with a TV Tuner, but without the TV Tuner? I have this little crappy camera that I was using to submit scores in Guitar Hero II competitions, but the thing SUCKS, I have to take about 50+ pictures before I get one that'll work. So I was wondering if there would be any cheap way to do that? Thanks in advance.

If not, would this be a good TV tuner do you guys think? I'd mostly just be hooking my 360 up to it to take screenshots of my scores and other things like that, but I'd also like to occasionally like to record a TV show every once in a while. I wouldn't use the FM tuner because I've got a receiver in my room that has a good radio, so that doesn't matter if it's a piece of crap.

Leadtek TV2000XP/EXPERT Tuner Card

That card has 4 eggs on the NIB one, but it's $15 more, would it be worth the extra $15 to get a new one rather than this Open Box one?
 
The only possible alternative to a tuner card would be a video capture device that will accept that type of signal input. There are both pci and usb types available. The output from an X-Box 360 can be displayed on come lcd monitors while a conversion tool like a tuner or capture device is the necessary item.
 
Alright, thanks, I just bought the one in the last post, should be coming in around Wednesday, I'll post on how it works out than.
 
It's a lower cost option there anyways since I always buy a retail packaged model for viewing analog sources as well as video capturing. The 360 is the more pc friendly second edition of X-Box where that should see good results.
 
Alright, well, I got the card today, and it's amazing, the TV Tuner in my grandpa's computer kinda sucks so I wasn't expecting much, but it surpassed my expectations.

My only complaint about it is that I CAN NOT get it to record the audio, I can get it to play Audio while recording and not recording, but no matter what I do, it won't record it. I looked on the Leadtek website and all that I could find was this which was NO help because it was for an older version of the Leadtek program...
 
When first going to use a tuner card you have to configure it with the software as far as input sources and types. This is usually the sound card if one is installed or the "what you hear" option where you then go to the mixer section for adjusting the line in, mic, etc. there.

For video that would be the composite which you already managed to get working. But go through the setup wizard to double check the setting menu to see what is listed for sound. You may have to run a patch cord to the input for the card or onboard if used.
 
I might just be tired, but I don't get it... Here's how I have it set up:

TV - My Cable Box is hooked up, than from the output on the cable box I've got a cable going to the tuner and my TV.

FM - Came with an FM cable that I've got hooked up.

Remote Control - Have that running up my wall, it works

S-Vid - Came with an adapter, so I've got the adapter plugged into the slot and my 360 plugged into the adapter.

Sound - I've got one of those things on the back of CD Drives on both the card and the motherboard(the little 4 prong thing that I just CAN NOT think of it's name right now, but it's something insanely simple) Anyways, I've got that plugged in from my TV tuner to my motherboard, when that's plugged in, I get sound from everything, but I can't record the sound, when it's not plugged in, I don't.

Does that answer your question? If not I can get screenshots of how I've got it set up and maybe you could look at them and tell me what I'm doing wrong...

Basically, I've got everything set up, except for the audio won't record, however, the video will...
 
With any tuner card there is the software side of the configuration to set up as well as just the input sources. I wasn't talking about the cable arrangement but the setting in the tuner's own configuration for the input source. The sound card there should be seen in a dropdown list and be the default as well as only except for the "what you hear" reference typical with tuners and capture cards.
 
I still can't find it, so I made a video tell me if you see something I have screwed up, there's a part in the video where I adjust the recording volume, but that's not the problem, I had to reinstall it so that reset, but I've tried recording at a lot of volumes with no luck. Also, when I'm going through the menu of options for sound to go through(CD Audio, Back, Side, Subwoofer, all that stuff) front gets cut off that list. Anyways, here's the video:

WinFast PVR2 menu
 
It looked like the recording level was all the way down there. Often you increase by going left to right when the slider is horizontal. You'll see that in game options as well. Realtek for onboard? Are you running that in strictly by the 75ohm into the tuner card or have you patched with a Y adapter for left and right RCA plugs to a stereo 1/8" mini plug?
 
Yeah, I know about the volume level, it's set all the way down by default, and it quit working right, so I reinstalled it, by reinstalling it it set itself back down to the default, but like I said in my previous post, I've tried recording with that being all the way up and around the middle and just about everywhere else, so that's not the problem.

I have one of these:
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It's going straight from my TV Tuner to my motherboard. Than I'm using the onboard sound to output it to my speakers.
 
Here I never use onboard with the early capture cards actually needing a patch to the installed sound card's line in jack in order to hear sound at all. The software recorded audio through the sound card not the capture card. Newer models no longer need a patch since these are tv tuner models with their own audio processor.

You shouldn't even need a patch going to the board if the incoming audio goes directly into the Leadtek model you have. The ourput of the card should be going through the pci bus to the onboard that way. The last thing to consider however is a bad chip on the card itself preventing any sound from being recorded. You are simply hearing it since the sound is bypassing the chip.
 
Ok, so you're suggesting maybe if I take that wire out, than it'll record the audio? If it still doesn't, than I've got a broken TV Tuner? If that's true, than I'm going to have my dad's friend take a look at it, make sure everything's how it's supposed to be, and than if need be, send it back and get a new one, not an open box.

EDIT: Also, I've got this little crappy PCI soundcard, I'm not even 100% sure that it works, but would you recommend me trying that as well?

EDIT 2: This is the sound card that I have: Creative Labs CT4750
 
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Are you kidding? Take a look at the OSs that card was used on. 95, 98, and NT. You would want at least an Audigy series or SB Live model card just for XP alone. On an old Socket A board I went for the Audigy 2 ZS Gamer which quit to the Audigy 4 Pro and then newer model tuner card to see good results.

The Audigy 4 Pro was then moved into the last build where the tuner there now in the new build will be replaced by a Vista ready model finally available. The card you have there is simply too far outdated for your current build and certainly not newer one coming. But unless a driver still didn't go on right you have to suspect the card or the way it is installed with the patch cord used. Review the support section at Leadtech if you can find something in their faQ troubleshooting section.
 
I know, that card's a piece of crap, if I had a job, I'd get a better one, but the thing is, I don't, so I'm strapped for cash and that's the only sound card that I have. So it'd be better to just keep using my onboard sound than? And just to make sure, the patch cord would be the thing in the picture a few posts back, right? I'm guessing that this card is just broken... I'm not sure if just because it won't record audio if it'd be worth sending back... I guess it would be...
 
The other possible problem is how you connected the gaming console to the card itself. Are you using the mini jacks or simply relying on the one cable going to the 75ohm input? Most capture cards will often require patching the audio through the input jacks while cable/satellite sees a different form of compressed bandwidth in the signal there.

Here just connecting a vcr by way of the 75ohm cable alone lost audio. I have to use a composite RCA phono plug for video as well as the two channels seen for audio. The X-Box video would still have to go to the 75ohm input while the audio should be two channel with phono type output.
 
It won't record anything, TV or console. I've got the cable coming from my cable box, into a 2 way splitter where 1 end of it is going to my computer(the cable jack on it) and the other end it going to my TV, than with my 360, I've got it plugged into the component to S-vid converter that came with it, than into the S-Vid jack on the tuner. So you're saying maybe if I have the sound for the 360 plugged into one of the sound jacks, than switch that one to input instead of output, that might work?
 
You might have to run a 2 into 1 patch cord for the audio into what looks like a mic or line in jack right next to the s-video port on the tuner card. Or run it into the line in if the onboard sound has that jack there. Unfortunately that card has two 75ohm one in one out apparently, the s-video limited to video only, and that mini jack seen there.

The screen shot here is from an AVerTV model showing the composite in along with the left and right audio phono type inputs for running a vcr inline to convert the X-Box output into composite video.



Your setup there should be a direct patch to the tuner card only where you play while watch the video part on the monitor. The X-Box should have the phono type output jacks for audio you would patch directly to the mini jack if that is an input shown on the photos at newegg.

Here I run everything through a vcr that would accept the X-Box signal and convert it to composite video. The card there now has the Vista version of the software side to replace an XP MCE powered card in use now. But I wanted you to see another possible method for what you are trying there. First find out what the mini jack is for in the booklet that came along with the card and what it is used for.
 
Alright, I think once I've got everyone I owe money to payed, than I'll head down to radioshack and buy another composite extender and rig it so that I can plug the composite cords of my 360 into the headphone jacks on the back of my computer...

Or should I just send it back and get pay $15 to get a new one that I know everything will work on? I think this one might just be broken...
 
You still have the S-Video input for video seen on the card. The headphone jack is an output not an input type jack. You want to see audio going in not out in order to see it recorded along with the video. The screen shot here is from the model you ordered so you can compare it to others like the one posted earlier to see what I was referring to.



You will note the small miniplug type jack next to the S-Video input on the card. Is that a mic or line in jack since that would be for audio there.
 
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