Hsf

themikeman

New Member
I'm looking to upgrade from stock cooling and was looking into the Coolermaster Jet 4. Anybody have one of these? Good/Bad? Its fairly cheap now, only 34 on FrozenCPU.
 
lol thanks but id like some human help
Glad you noticed the kid ... annoying isnt he? Not quite as mature as one would expect for a 15 year old .... oh well

Message from Admin: My program has a higher IQ level than most humans.
The statement would be useful if it make grammatical-technical sense but oh well....

Coolermaster Jet 4 is a reasonable model.
The kids's never seen a HSF in his life... he just wants to have some friends

themikeman
The Jet 4 is a decent cooler although I would suggest you have a serious look at some other models but let's take a closer look at the the two (as well as some other options)

Jet 4
CFM: 12.0 - 22.1
HSF: 83x68x50mm
RPM: 1900 - 3500 rpm
NOISE: 21 - 41dBA
More info: http://www.xoxide.com/comajet4p447.html

Polo 735
CFM: 26.5-72.92 C
HSF: 82x65.6x49mm (66 fins)
RPM: 2000-5500 rpm
NOISE: 21-48 dBA
More info: http://www.xoxide.com/ttextreme.html


There's nothing wrong with the Jet4 per se and it's a niftly cooler which however it's basic design means that it is somewhat dependent on the air around the case as it uses this air for intake and thus you should strive to keep the ambient case temps low if you went that route The Polo735 which ive suggested has a very similar audio profile however, being a more traditional fan it isnt so dependant on the ambient temps. Both are solid fans although I'd reccomend you have a look at the Polo :)
 
thanks for the suggestion praetor. few more questions about temps...

One - Regarding copper. I have seen in other places that you should not get a copper heatsink, however all the copper HSF's I see say that copper spreads heat better than aluminum. Is there a definite answer to this?

Two - How much can case fans affect the temperature of my cpu temp. Right now I have 5 case fans: 2 in the front down low bringing in air, 2 in back up top pulling out air, and a window case halfway up the case bringing in air.

Three - What temperature does your cpu run at, just to get an idea at what im shooting for here.

thanks for the help man, i appreciate it
 
One - Regarding copper. I have seen in other places that you should not get a copper heatsink, however all the copper HSF's I see say that copper spreads heat better than aluminum. Is there a definite answer to this?
I've been the one saying that :P And what I've said is that copper is very good for ABSORBING heat however its so go at doing that, that it's not so good at RELEASING heat. That is why, if you get a copper heatsink, you should get a massive ass fan. Without a good fan, the copper gets "full" of heat and loses its efficiency. Aluminum on the otherhand, while not so great at absorbing heat, can absorb so much more of it before it loses it's efficiency. This is why some mobo's have big aluminum heatsinks without fans and other have smaller copper one's with fans. For CPUs if you're concerned about noise, grab a copper-aluminum heatsink (copper base, aluminum everything else) and a medium fan (noise-wise).

Two - How much can case fans affect the temperature of my cpu temp. Right now I have 5 case fans: 2 in the front down low bringing in air, 2 in back up top pulling out air, and a window case halfway up the case bringing in air.
Nice setup, you might want to experiment the side fan: having it exhaust air might work for you better :)

Three - What temperature does your cpu run at, just to get an idea at what im shooting for here.
I run 50º but I'm using the Thermaltake Silentboost fan right now (which is quite efficient actually) ... when I pop in a Volcano12 then the temps drop to 40º


thanks for the help man, I appreciate it
Glad to help :)
 
i assume that you have an AMD proc from those HSF's you said u were using.

Noise, im not really concerned about it. I would like to get my comp to perform and after that if it turns out that it does bother me i can look into some noise dampening.

I have an intel P4 3ghz processor, and like i said earlier, im using the boxed hsf. the fan on it supposed to increase RPM as the temp of the processor increases, however it obviously doesnt do as much as it should since i get up to 60 C playing Far Cry with settings maxed out. I also bought a $20 hsf from mad dog multimedia (actually a thermaltake model) but it turned out to be a wasted 20 bucks, since the stock hsf turned out to cool it better. The stock intel hsf is all aluminum with a small fan on top, only a 60x60mm. The cheap thermaltake one i bought had a copper spreader on the bottom and a regular old case fan screwed on top.

So anyways, im rambling. My only other question for now is what should I look for when buying a new hsf? I have a good amount of room in my atx case, so I dont need to worry about the size of it. Compatability is obvious, even tho some of them like the polo 735 you recommended work with both brand names of processors. After that theres fan speeds, max air flow and max air pressure. I have tried to get the specs for these on my stock intel hsf so i could have something to compare it to but i couldnt find them. I guess the question is there any specific numbers in terms of air flow, fan speed and watnot that i should definitely want in buying a new hsf
Thanks, Mike
 
i assume that you have an AMD proc from those HSF's you said u were using
If im not mistaken the Jet 4 (which u suggested) is an Intel cooler. The Polo is a universal cooler

Noise, im not really concerned about it
Get the Polo and you're set

The stock intel hsf is all aluminum with a small fan on top, only a 60x60mm. The cheap thermaltake one I bought had a copper spreader on the bottom and a regular old case fan screwed on top.
Did u use a thermal paste? :)

My only other question for now is what should I look for when buying a new hsf?
Brute force :D
 
Brute force

Yes!!! (but when you need it)

I've been using the POLO 735 and at this very moment MBM5 is reporting the CPU temp as 37ºC with the variable speed set to low (2000RPM). When gaming or encoding video I'll crank the speed up to max (5700RPM) and the temps never break 50ºC. The variable speed contoller is very nice since it allows you to crank it up when need the extra cooling but keep the noise down when you don't :)
 
jumping from 37 to 50 is quite a jump but those are good safe temps. yeah that is pretty cool. id just crank it when i play games. gotta wear headphones anyway. lol
 
(but when you need it)
bah! all the time! :D

jumping from 37 to 50 is quite a jump but those are good safe temps
Wait till you play Doom3 at 1280x1024 heehee ... or if you're more serious type... encode a DVD with Premier :P It'll jump 20º no sweat
 
Praetor - yup, i got the thermal paste on there that came with it.

Lol, and yes, i see near-20 degree jumps a lot. Sitting idle my cpu is at about 44, and i jump to almost 60 when i play far cry with settings maxed out. Either that or editing, however I am an Avid editor, not premiere :cool:

General - Thanks for the suggestions Praetor and Nephilim. Praetor thanks for the initial suggestions and thanks Nephilim for comfirming that the Polo works good.
 
Back
Top