I like the new iMacs

ml1209

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I haven't used Macs in a long long long time, but these new iMacs are really nice.

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I like how they integrate the display with the computer itself, making for a very clean uncluttered design.
 
They are overpriced and over hyped. With some basic knowledge a PC can be as secure as a Mac and a PC is more versatile.
 
Macs are not just famous for their security. working in Mac is lot easier than windows, i think. go to : http://www.apple.com/getamac/

OF COURSE Apple is going to tell us that their computer is better. If we were to go to the HP site, or the Dell site, or the E-Machines site even, there would probably be a ton of reasons why they're better than macs. You can't base what's better off of a manufacturer opinion... the manufacturer will always claim to be better.
 
well the mac pc debate certainly wont be solved here, but thanks to the move from powerpc the difference between a mac and pc will just be an os change :)
 
I don't quite understand why more people don't got the routes macintosh take. I suspect most of their smaller systems, such as the mini and iMac are just laptops in different cases....
 
Well I know some of the Dell machines were made to mount on the back of their LCDs, but it was still a fairly large setup. Probably better overall than the iMac, besides their heat problems :P
 
this is the one my dad has

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and then when you flip the keyboard up in front of the monitor, the 1/2 of the monitor that's still exposed becomes a huge digital clock, and there's buttons on the back of the keyboard to control volume/track >>, etc. so you can use it as a jukebox with the keyboard flipped up

it's a pretty neat little computer
 
I've always liked Macs. I just wish you could build one to the spec you want (yes, we all know there are ways of doing that, but it's not 100% legal, and it doesn't necessarily work 100% properly either...).
 
Well, I use Macs at school everyday and they are pretty nice, I know if I could "build" them to my spec's and they were reasonably priced I would get one but there not.:( they say Mac's are better for graphic type jobs but I don't think that it makes a difference
 
macs have the advantage of all being built by apple, and with a shortlist of components, so compatability is much better than pc's, since software only has to be written to be compatable with said short list of components

so pc's have the advantage, and also the downfall, of having millions of possible components to build your system with, at the expense of a compatability problem here or there, which is usually able to be remedied by a patch, or a new driver

so mac has the distinct advantage of being very simple, almost a 'video game system' pc, which is the very essence of plug-and-play at the expense of customization

and the reason apples are commonly considered to be better for graphics programs is that they're all equipped with extremely high-quality, low latency ram, and have been using multi-core processors, as well as multithreaded programs long before pc's caught on

now that both pc and mac are using intel processors (mac used to use ibm, and motorola before that) they're on a basically level playing field

so here would be the breakdown

macs:
PRO's
- they're ALL good (there's no crappy macs)
- gauranteed compatability with mac software
- plug and play, no need for patches, etc.
- safer (if 99% of people use pc's, why bother writing spyware/virus' for macs?)

CONS
- there's no CHEAP macs
- not customizable
- not as much software

PC
Pro's
- Better performance per $
- Completely customizable
- More companies make components = more competition = newer parts faster
- More compatable software

CONS
- more hardware selection = less compatability with existing software
- faster hardware releases = more expensive to keep up to date
- no gauranteed performance (there ARE such thing as bad pc's)
- no gauranteed compatability between components, or software

there's really no pc vs. mac argument, it's what kind of money you want to spend, and what you're wanting to do with it

if you value quality, and ease of use over cost and customization, a mac's for you

if you want to maximize your investment, and don't mind a few speedbumps along the way, it's a pc for you

performance is out the window, you could make any given program run just as fast on either computer, it's really just gauranteed performance vs. customization and a wider selection of components

and of course which o/s you prefer to use

but the directions o/s' can go is reaching it's limit, and the o/s's are naturally converging and becoming more and more similar
 
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MAC's are a profit machine for Apple while PC builders have the ultimate advantage, we are informed and able to create what we want and avoid problems. I can see in the future a lot of the knowledge we have now being common knowledge. For instance, computer and networking classes being as common as history and english classes. We are becoming a technology based society faster and faster. MAC's will be absolute in the future, no real staying power. They can only adapt as deep as consumers pockets can stand. I most certainly see them only keeping there small share of the market they have and not really expanding it, but with the profits they make I doubt they care.

MAC's are just over hyped and overrated PC's with a separate OS which derives it security from a lack of popularity.
 
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