I need your input on the ultimate computer cooler

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Flintner

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For the past several months I have been running a refrigerated computer cooler, this cooler not only cools the cpu but all of the components. I have the temp set at approx 60 deg Fahrenheit, the other benefit other than running cool is no dust build up on any components. I am seriously thinking of building these units for selling but need some feedback, they will be approx. a 24"cube. It isnt the smallest case I know but I think this may revolutionize the high end graphics, gaming and OC's need for super cooling. here some temps I have been running on an asus p5kpl-vm/Q6600 overclocked 20%, gtx260 graphics card.
the pic is running crysis max graphics settings. View attachment 3491
The coolers would run between $1500-$2000 but I'm sure it will be closer to the $1500 range. If this was on the market do you all think there would be many buyers? Thanks for any input.
 
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I've been running this system for at least 4 months, i've resolved the moisture issue, hav'nt had a single problem. And it's not really a refrigerator so to speak but uses the same components.
 
Flintner said:
I've been running this system for at least 4 months, i've resolved the moisture issue, hav'nt had a single problem. And it's not really a refrigerator so to speak but uses the same components.
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Ahh... Pics OR GTFO please? Lol, jk. But seriously, pics? I'm interested in seeing how it looks and how it's set up.


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Don't worry, I'm not going to steal your idea and claim it for myself if you decide you want to make a living off of it :P
 
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Flintner said:
I've been running this system for at least 4 months, i've resolved the moisture issue, hav'nt had a single problem. And it's not really a refrigerator so to speak but uses the same components.
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So what is the process? Are you pumping refrigerant through a water block sort of deal or is it a condenser inside the system that injects cold air into the case.

To be honest a 24 x 24 ancillary box is sort of a space hog. I understand this may be a prototype but if the works could be set up in such a way that it is contained within the case or at least as a smaller unit then you might have something.

From the temps i saw you haven't gotten anything below ambient air temp. Water cooling and decent air cooling are producing similar readings. So as a potential buyer of this system what is its selling point since I could achieve the same thing for considerably less cost.

There is a cool factor there and I'd really love to see how you accomplished it.
 
schw32m said:
From the temps i saw you haven't gotten anything below ambient air temp. Water cooling and decent air cooling are producing similar readings. So as a potential buyer of this system what is its selling point since I could achieve the same thing for considerably less cost.
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Agreed my phenom II probably generates more heat than his OCd 6600 and I get a max temp of about 51C on air. Granted theres different variables in there, he's running a lower speed but a higher nm.. I don't know, too confusing, but I agree you could be a high quality water cooling system for less and get much lower temps.
 
schw32m said:
So what is the process? Are you pumping refrigerant through a water block sort of deal or is it a condenser inside the system that injects cold air into the case.

To be honest a 24 x 24 ancillary box is sort of a space hog. I understand this may be a prototype but if the works could be set up in such a way that it is contained within the case or at least as a smaller unit then you might have something.

From the temps i saw you haven't gotten anything below ambient air temp. Water cooling and decent air cooling are producing similar readings. So as a potential buyer of this system what is its selling point since I could achieve the same thing for considerably less cost.

There is a cool factor there and I'd really love to see how you accomplished it.
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There isn't any water involved, I set the thermostat to 60 degrees but can go colder, I just didn't see the need to go colder. I ran toast for better pics, I can tell you that I've tried the water cooling various cpu coolers and so on but even cooling down the cpu left the graphics card, memory, power supply, hard drive, etc running hot, since I have been doing this I haven't had problems of over heating especially the graphics card which is also overclocked. Here is an updated photo of temps running toast, the other temps were 4 months old and I have done some tweaking on overclocking since then. toast temps.jpg
Sorry for the small pic, I will redo this afternoon, gotta go to work
 
As has been said, those temps aren't too difficult to achieve, or maybe a bit higher, but nowhere near so much higher that I would part with 1500 notes for it.

If you were to drop it any lower though, I wouldn't buy it still because you will end up generating condensation, and condensation around components=bad ;)
 
Flintner said:
There isn't any water involved, I set the thermostat to 60 degrees but can go colder, I just didn't see the need to go colder. I ran toast for better pics, I can tell you that I've tried the water cooling various cpu coolers and so on but even cooling down the cpu left the graphics card, memory, power supply, hard drive, etc running hot.
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Well, if you don't water-cool the other components, they're still going to run as hot as they did before. Did you think the CPU temperature determined all the other ones? :P
 
60f is nothing for overclocking, you can get lower than that just by running a simple chilled water setup. For any noticeable difference in overclocking something such as a phase change or dry ice setup would be required. 60 degrees isnt that cold anyhow, considering during the summer i can get a 60 degree ambient pretty easily with a window a/c unit.
 
bomberboysk said:
60f is nothing for overclocking, you can get lower than that just by running a simple chilled water setup. For any noticeable difference in overclocking something such as a phase change or dry ice setup would be required. 60 degrees isnt that cold anyhow, considering during the summer i can get a 60 degree ambient pretty easily with a window a/c unit.
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Aren't those dry ice setups only temporary and usually just used for benchmarking? They look pretty strange, with the tube and all.

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I guess I dont understand why there is a need to run the components so cold, I was having overheating issues with the graphics card cpu and so on running in a large standard case with the side off of it blasting it with as much forced air as possible and tried multiple cpu coolers, and could not overclock the motherboard or graphics card at all without crashing. So what ambient air temp is good? Because the only way to make the ambient room temp the same is to sit in a 60 degree room. I thought overclocking had a problem eliminating heat from the system but sub zero seems extreme to me.
 
Flintner said:
I guess I dont understand why there is a need to run the components so cold, I was having overheating issues with the graphics card cpu and so on running in a large standard case with the side off of it blasting it with as much forced air as possible and tried multiple cpu coolers, and could not overclock the motherboard or graphics card at all without crashing. So what ambient air temp is good? Because the only way to make the ambient room temp the same is to sit in a 60 degree room. I thought overclocking had a problem eliminating heat from the system but sub zero seems extreme to me.
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So... either way, I'm interested in seeing how it's set up :D
 
jasonwow said:
those dry ice things get down to -190 and beyond temps thats insane there sum with the tubes that are huge too
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dry ice with acetone is around -60*C, ln2 is around -120*C, and liquid helium is -190*C(costing upwards of $4 a liter, and the only cpu's that don't coldbug at that temp is the phenom 2's)
 
Flintner said:
There isn't any water involved, I set the thermostat to 60 degrees but can go colder, I just didn't see the need to go colder. I ran toast for better pics, I can tell you that I've tried the water cooling various cpu coolers and so on but even cooling down the cpu left the graphics card, memory, power supply, hard drive, etc running hot, since I have been doing this I haven't had problems of over heating especially the graphics card which is also overclocked. Here is an updated photo of temps running toast, the other temps were 4 months old and I have done some tweaking on overclocking since then.
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Again, all of the components you mentioned can be cooled with a water system self contained within the case just as well and for a lot less money. I hate to be a terrible skeptic, but until I see pictures of the system in operation and all of the support equipment, your screenies of the temps aren't blowing my skirt up enough to justify the investment of 1500+ bones.

The sales pitch is lacking. If what you are doing is injecting cool air into the case, I can do the same thing with a $200 portable AC unit and some PVC ductwork from Lowes, accomplish the same result and I would get the additional benefit of having AC in my computer room.
 
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