i7 vs phenom 2
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bamarammin87
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the price..
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TrainTrackHack
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AMD has a problem though; AFAIK the die of the Phenom II is almost as big as that of the i7, but the CPU only offers performance similar to Yorkfields, which have a die about 30% smaller. So, while AMD's pricing strategy is (And probably will be) good for the consumer, it won't be good for AMD because they'll only make minimal profit off those CPUs.
Imagine Intel starting to sell its Yorkfields at a price where they just break even - in this case, AMD would have to sell P2 at a loss to have a competitive price for the performance. Intel certainly has the capital to do so...
Imagine Intel starting to sell its Yorkfields at a price where they just break even - in this case, AMD would have to sell P2 at a loss to have a competitive price for the performance. Intel certainly has the capital to do so...
Well for sells AMD has one advantage. They are willing to sell Quads with bad cores or some really slow cores as a X3 or X2. ( Which has always went on with both companies, in the single/dual cores.) Intel has been bashing AMD for the concept with Phenom, so the more and more they move to i7 design and away from the Core 2, the more and more stacked up defective cores they are going to have (No Profit) dead money. So they are going to take a big profit hit (or) eat face and copy AMD again.
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evilvikingking
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The i7 looks like a winner to me, despite me being an AMD fan. The Phenom II doesn't quite fit the bill. Single processors are fast approaching their maximum possible performance.
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I doubt that. They always come out with a new technology that pushes processing speed faster. It does make you wonder where computer technology will be 20 years in the future. The industry has come so far since 1989.
evilvikingking
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They are though. Single core processors have basically reached their maximum possible performance. Data is only capable of being processed at the speed of light. And you can't go faster than that. All we can expect to go any faster is a multi-processor architecture. Its the only way. Maybe, they'll find a way, but it seems that without an amazing revolution, the world of single core computing has been done to death.
how do you know speed of light is the fastest they can achieve?? never say never
Who is talking about single cores? Plus thats not the reason single cores are going out. Its better/faster/ to split up the threads and run it on multiple cores, then having one thread running on a like 6ghz. single core. Compared to 2 threads running on a dual core at 3ghz.
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evilvikingking
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I mean right now. They may beat the speed of light, but at the moment...nope. =)
evilvikingking
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lol. I put single processors. I meant cores.
Anyway, I'm not having an argument about processors. Lets discuss the i7 and the Phenom II.
I'm more impressed by the i7 then I am with the Phenom. Sorry AMD, but you don't have the high ground here.
TrainTrackHack
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...and we'll never need more than 640KB of memory. Also, we were talking about multi-core CPUs.
I don't get this... "data processing speed" effectively means how much data is processed within a given time frame, correct? How can we compare the speed at which something travels and how much data is processed in a give time
?Anyway, on-topic, Phenom II is supposedly competing with Core2 (Yorkfield) rather than Nehalem. In terms of absolute performance, i7 wins (by quite a significant margin, especially when compared clock-for-clock), there's no question about that.