jbrdbr111x
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I need help, I just finished building my new pc, and installed my new SATA drive.. Problem is my data from my old pc is on IDE, What can I do to clone now? 
IDE to SATA with Gparted??
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GParted will copy partitions directly from one drive to another while a disk image is a compressed method that can even be burned onto a dvd depending on the size. For simply seeing file onlys retrieved GParted will work for that if you simply let it run. Forget about running either XP or Vista on it however.
Recently when using GParted to copy the entire primary from an ide drive being removed that was put to the test where once all files were backed up to another drive that was then removed. Norton Ghost and Acronis Disk Image are generally the two more commonly used retail programs for this since you can burn an image to a blamk dvd depending on size.
GParted(free) as well as data tools provided by the hard drive manufacturer can simply copy not create compressed images for this. With driver manufacturers drive tools the option for copying from drive to drive won't work if some 3rd party drive overlay like Partition Magic has already been used.
Recently when using GParted to copy the entire primary from an ide drive being removed that was put to the test where once all files were backed up to another drive that was then removed. Norton Ghost and Acronis Disk Image are generally the two more commonly used retail programs for this since you can burn an image to a blamk dvd depending on size.
GParted(free) as well as data tools provided by the hard drive manufacturer can simply copy not create compressed images for this. With driver manufacturers drive tools the option for copying from drive to drive won't work if some 3rd party drive overlay like Partition Magic has already been used.
jbrdbr111x
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Ok, so I put gparted on a cd, Are the files normally bootable from there? Also is gparted easy to use?
GParted takes a little to get used to but is actually quite easy to use once you get used to the way it loads when you boot from the cd-r used to burn the 35mb iso image to. The figure #21 and on seen at http://gparted.sourceforge.net/larry/generalities/gparted.htm provide screenshots as well as the overall proceedure for first unmounting a partition to see it copied from one drive to another. The full page seen there is the overall guide for the tool itself.
First you have to see a good burn of the iso image to a cd-r made bootable. The 0.3.3.0 release about number #15 down the page at http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=115843&package_id=173828 being an OS platform independent type loads the fastest over the previous releases.
Some use Deep Burner while the free version of BurnOn has been reliable here for seeing multiple copies of the live tool. http://www.burnworld.com/burnoncddvd/ Eventually I'll get around to getting the full retail version so the IE window for that doesn't appear after each burn.
GGrrr...! 
Once you have a good burn onto disk you simply boot from that like you would if you were installing Windows. The one thing to know however is never wonder regarding the default settings. Simply press the enter key at each of the 4 stops as it loads to reach the main gui. 24bit is Linux for you! Don't change that to 32bit or... The default 1024x768 resolution keeps everything onscreen and not wondering offscreen where you can't see it.
Try a few practice runs just to get familiar with it without clicking on the apply button and answering Y for yes at the confirmation prompt.
First you have to see a good burn of the iso image to a cd-r made bootable. The 0.3.3.0 release about number #15 down the page at http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=115843&package_id=173828 being an OS platform independent type loads the fastest over the previous releases.
Some use Deep Burner while the free version of BurnOn has been reliable here for seeing multiple copies of the live tool. http://www.burnworld.com/burnoncddvd/ Eventually I'll get around to getting the full retail version so the IE window for that doesn't appear after each burn.
GGrrr...! Once you have a good burn onto disk you simply boot from that like you would if you were installing Windows. The one thing to know however is never wonder regarding the default settings. Simply press the enter key at each of the 4 stops as it loads to reach the main gui. 24bit is Linux for you! Don't change that to 32bit or...
The default 1024x768 resolution keeps everything onscreen and not wondering offscreen where you can't see it.Try a few practice runs just to get familiar with it without clicking on the apply button and answering Y for yes at the confirmation prompt.
jbrdbr111x
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It looks like a decent GUI, so it's fully runable off CD? I downloaded the Iso from that link you sent me.. I'm moving the data from my 40gb IDE drive to a new 500gb SATA drive.. So how should I approach the partitions, or just copy everything as is?..
Thanks for your patience with me on this..
Thanks for your patience with me on this..
GParted runs just like a live distro would run or if you were going to install Windows. All you do is either set cd rom as the first in the boot order in the bios boot order or if you have the optional boot device menu available press the assign F key to bring up the menu for all drives and select the cd or dvd drive listed under optical drives.
For the one time copy of the entire partition you first click on the 40gb drive when displayed. You may see the 500gb or OS drive shown first where you simply go to the dropdown list button found at the far right on the menu bar. This is why not raising the resolution up from 1024x768 to 1280x1024 keeps that button and other things onscreen.
The process will be somewhat time consuming once you highlight the old drive and click on the large "copy" button also found on the menu bar. Remember this method copies everything over including the old Windows directory as well. If you don't want every folder copied there's also an alternative for manually seeing individual or groups of folder highlighted and copied from drive to drive.
Most want everything including the user account folder and sub folders copied however for files buried in those. GParted is still a good tool for partitioning and resizing partitions if you choose the alternate method namely copying drive to drive while running a live Linux distro.
Being a self contained OS on a cd a live distro like the latest ubuntu 7.10 live for cd release can see files and folders copied without Windows even loaded.
With a live distro you would first need to see the 500gb drive partitioned and formatted in order to see the same type of individual selection like seen in the image there. If you have a folder full of one type of file you simply copy it like you would if you were using two explorer windows for a copy and paste in Windows.
For the one time copy of the entire partition you first click on the 40gb drive when displayed. You may see the 500gb or OS drive shown first where you simply go to the dropdown list button found at the far right on the menu bar. This is why not raising the resolution up from 1024x768 to 1280x1024 keeps that button and other things onscreen.
The process will be somewhat time consuming once you highlight the old drive and click on the large "copy" button also found on the menu bar. Remember this method copies everything over including the old Windows directory as well. If you don't want every folder copied there's also an alternative for manually seeing individual or groups of folder highlighted and copied from drive to drive.
Most want everything including the user account folder and sub folders copied however for files buried in those. GParted is still a good tool for partitioning and resizing partitions if you choose the alternate method namely copying drive to drive while running a live Linux distro.
Being a self contained OS on a cd a live distro like the latest ubuntu 7.10 live for cd release can see files and folders copied without Windows even loaded.
With a live distro you would first need to see the 500gb drive partitioned and formatted in order to see the same type of individual selection like seen in the image there. If you have a folder full of one type of file you simply copy it like you would if you were using two explorer windows for a copy and paste in Windows.
jbrdbr111x
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Well hopefully it will all fall in place when I get started on it later on today... Sounds confusing as I have never done this before, but I'm usually good at picking up things pretty fast..
I'll let you know how it goes after I've done my first clone...
I'll let you know how it goes after I've done my first clone...
It won't clone in that sense but simply copies the entire partition. Once you see that done you can easily create a second partition with the remaining drive space to copy everything you want over there and then see the copy removed. Later you simply expand the new partition to fill the drive easy enough.
If you later remember you forgot something on the 40gb's primary like some files under your user account you can always browse through those folders like My Photos or My Music etc. there. The option for using a live distro would be if you were unable to browse the old drive while booted in Windows for some reason.
While at the main gui in GParted simply click on the partition that represents the 40gb drive as it will show the size there. When clicking on the copy button you then have to point out which one is the receiving drive namely the 500gb model since that is empty at the present time without any partitions.
You can't overwrite existing one if already there and lack the drive space needed. That would be the one snag. If it shows some 36+gb as the primary you will a little over that amount on the 500gb model ro see the copy work. For later seeing any OS for a dual boot go onto the 500gb drive you would need a fresh primary or root.
I found that one out when not being able to repair the boot information for the previous installation of Windows on the 250gb ide drive here. Once all files were copied over from the copied primary that was simply deleted to see a new one created.
If you later remember you forgot something on the 40gb's primary like some files under your user account you can always browse through those folders like My Photos or My Music etc. there. The option for using a live distro would be if you were unable to browse the old drive while booted in Windows for some reason.
While at the main gui in GParted simply click on the partition that represents the 40gb drive as it will show the size there. When clicking on the copy button you then have to point out which one is the receiving drive namely the 500gb model since that is empty at the present time without any partitions.
You can't overwrite existing one if already there and lack the drive space needed. That would be the one snag. If it shows some 36+gb as the primary you will a little over that amount on the 500gb model ro see the copy work. For later seeing any OS for a dual boot go onto the 500gb drive you would need a fresh primary or root.
I found that one out when not being able to repair the boot information for the previous installation of Windows on the 250gb ide drive here. Once all files were copied over from the copied primary that was simply deleted to see a new one created.
jbrdbr111x
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Ok, got everything up and running... I wasn't sure what size partition to creat on a 500gb disk, so I made it around 96gb...
I went to copy from my other disk, the partition was 10.15gb.. It said everything copied ok, but when I remove the old hard drive, and re-boot, I just get a blank screen after bios finishes...
What did I miss? I just want to copy everything from my old rive to the new one, Windows, files, everything..
I went to copy from my other disk, the partition was 10.15gb.. It said everything copied ok, but when I remove the old hard drive, and re-boot, I just get a blank screen after bios finishes...
What did I miss? I just want to copy everything from my old rive to the new one, Windows, files, everything..
jbrdbr111x
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Nope can't boot, running XP... Yeah I figured if I copied one drive to another it should work the same, but I got lost with partitioning, and all..
A flashing umm cursor (think that's the name) Brain freeze, is all I see when it tries to boot from the hard drive..
A flashing umm cursor (think that's the name) Brain freeze, is all I see when it tries to boot from the hard drive..
jbrdbr111x
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Anyone?? Or anyone know a better cloning program??
For now, don't worry about the data on your IDE drive; I'm assuming it's still intact. It probably copied successfully on to your SATA partition as well.
We need to get you booted into XP.
If you haven't already, enter the BIOS and be sure that you have the correct hard drive set to boot first. Sometimes the boot order rearranges when you add/remove hard drives from the system.
If you've confirmed that the correct hard drive is set to boot first in the boot priority, and you're still having problems, read the article below. It describes how repair the XP boot manager.
http://www.tech-recipes.com/rx/483/xp_repair_fix_master_boot_record_recovery_console
After applying the "fixmbr" command, type in "fixboot."
Reply to this thread if that doesn't work.
We need to get you booted into XP.
If you haven't already, enter the BIOS and be sure that you have the correct hard drive set to boot first. Sometimes the boot order rearranges when you add/remove hard drives from the system.
If you've confirmed that the correct hard drive is set to boot first in the boot priority, and you're still having problems, read the article below. It describes how repair the XP boot manager.
http://www.tech-recipes.com/rx/483/xp_repair_fix_master_boot_record_recovery_console
After applying the "fixmbr" command, type in "fixboot."
Reply to this thread if that doesn't work.
jbrdbr111x
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The new drive is the only one in there now.. I booted from windows cd, and then Windows says there is an error, then at the bottom of the screen it says in "pci.sys" is where the error occurred, and it just tells me to reboot, so I can't get to fix the boot manager..
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jbrdbr111x
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It also says "If this is the first time you've received this error, please re-boot and try again"
"If this error continues to re-occur, please view any related messages" (something along those lines) And that's where it says an error in pci.sys, so what do I do now?
"If this error continues to re-occur, please view any related messages" (something along those lines) And that's where it says an error in pci.sys, so what do I do now?
The new drive is the only one in there now.. I booted from windows cd, and then Windows says there is an error, then at the bottom of the screen it says in "pci.sys" is where the error occurred, and it just tells me to reboot, so I can't get to fix the boot manager..
Can you do a Repair install via your CD?
It sounds like you've hit a blue screen, and there could be a number of reasons for that. Have you changed *anything* besides the hard drive? If you can get into the recovery console, try the boot fix method I described in my previous post. If that doesn't work, try a Repair install as imsati suggested.
jbrdbr111x
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No, that's the problem.. When the CD boots, I get the usual Windows Setup blue screen, the it starts loading all the stuff, then it stops on the error I posted above, and I can't bypass it..
I have to re-boot and when I do I get the same error about pci.sys.. I'm so frustrated as everything is new and I just want to get things moving, but this blue screen of death is killing me..
Oh and btw, I removed my PCI video card and re-booted but same thing, so I know it doesn't have anything to do with that IMO..
I have to re-boot and when I do I get the same error about pci.sys.. I'm so frustrated as everything is new and I just want to get things moving, but this blue screen of death is killing me..
Oh and btw, I removed my PCI video card and re-booted but same thing, so I know it doesn't have anything to do with that IMO..
Yeah, random Build problems pop up sometimes, it just comes with the territory. I was upgrading my wife's system yesterday and moved around some Drives, and only the DVD Drive was being seen in BIOS, and then only when nothing else was attached. I tried every single BIOS setting and reset CMOS 3-4 times thinking I must have done something inadvertently. The cause...something as simple as a jumper setting 
Let's start at the beginning to rule a few things out. Does BIOS recognize your new Drive? Have you cleared CMOS and loaded the optimal default settings? Is your Windows CD legit or...'other'...? Are there any scratches or nicks on the CD?
Let's start at the beginning to rule a few things out. Does BIOS recognize your new Drive? Have you cleared CMOS and loaded the optimal default settings? Is your Windows CD legit or...'other'...? Are there any scratches or nicks on the CD?