Is it illeagal to use someone elses wireless?

jimmymac said:
WAter, Electriciy, Gas, tap into any of those supplies to a home and use them its illegal.....why? because you are stealing a supply of someone elses, whether it costs them more or not.

Tap into someone elses Cable TV line, is that illegal? are they paying more cos your using it? Exactly the same situation with Broadband.
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You are missing the point here and you need to do some research yourself, if you tap into someones cable yes that is stealing because you have to make a physical connection! If you are recieving free to air signals that is not encrypted it is not against the law because someone is broadcasting that signal and I have every right according to the FCC to recieve that signal even if it is encrypted but when you break that encryption then it is stealing because thats what the encryption is for is to keep people out. I can see the argument where people think you are steeling a service but the fact is if you broadcast your internet over a non encrypted wifi you are giving your service away permission or not, just like an internet cafe! For who ever posted that people have went to jail for using someones unencrypted wifi prove it, post a link to an article that says someone was arrested for using a (NONENCRYPTED NETWORK) bet you cant find one!
 
jimmymac said:
WAter, Electriciy, Gas, tap into any of those supplies to a home and use them its illegal.....why? because you are stealing a supply of someone elses.
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True, but unlike all of those, it doesnt cost the owner more if someone else uses it. If someone is using your electricity ot water, it costs them money. If you use someone elses internet, it doesnt cost them anything more, and if your just browsing the web it doesnt even slow them down.
 
[-0MEGA-] said:
True, but unlike all of those, it doesnt cost the owner more if someone else uses it. If someone is using your electricity ot water, it costs them money. If you use someone elses internet, it doesnt cost them anything more, and if your just browsing the web it doesnt even slow them down.
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Thats doesnt make a difference. If you're using someone elses service without their permission, then its stealing.
 
elmarcorulz said:
Thats doesnt make a difference. If you're using someone elses service without their permission, then its stealing.
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I didnt mean to say that it wasnt stealing, im just saying that it's different than using someone else electricity.
 
Read Part 2; the legality and ethics bit. Ill quote the main bit.
In other words, 1) don't examine the contents of a network; 2) don't add, delete, or change anything on the network, and 3) don't even use the network's Internet connection for Web surfing, email, chat, FTP, or anything else. Somebody else paid for the bandwidth, and if you don't have permission to use it, you're stealing it
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Even though we're not on about Wardriving, the bold text still stands.


EDIT: I pulled the link because it says on there how to get into networks.
 
Please, anyone who thinks that anyone's unencrypted internet is free to the public, go talk to your ISP. Or any ISP that is in question. You'll get your answer straight from the horses mouth, they are the ones who make the rules. "The Law" simply enforces and backs up the rules and guidelines they enforce in there customer agreement, so they are the ones to ask. You will get the same answer from all of them...it is against their policies and they CAN press charges against you if it's a big enough deal to them. "CAN" keyword, I would wager more than likely they just slap your hand and tell you to stop if they can get ahold of you.
 
[-0MEGA-] said:
I didnt mean to say that it wasnt stealing, im just saying that it's different than using someone else electricity.
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oh come on its called an analogy, i was trying to put at least some tangible point that relates to the fact that people can and have been prosectued for using the wi-fi.

Maybe the cable point worked a little better huh?
 
Motoxrdude said:
Dude, you arent getting what i am saying. I am saying that if you use someone else's wifi, they are not paying more. And as i someone mentrioned before, something broadcasted over the air(that is not encrypted) is not illegal to use.
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okay, say you have a point for one second, you think its not a problem to use there connection whilst they are not online and using it.

If this is true then surely you would at least tell the people what you were doing wouldnt you? I mean, you dont have anything to hide and would be totally up front with them.

Then on them grounds with there permission its not stealing.

Otherwise.....you a big fat THIEF!!

j/k about the big fat thing.

Mike
 
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