lime wire ????

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the program itself is not illegal, but many of the things you can get are illegal..that side of things won't be discussed here i'm afraid :)
 
Yeah but why would they make the software legal (Which is made for downloading stuff)but make the downloading illegal?

Whats the point in having the software if downloading the things of it is illegal?

I think they should ban the software realy.
 
AMD said:
Yeah but why would they make the software legal (Which is made for downloading stuff)but make the downloading illegal?

Whats the point in having the software if downloading the things of it is illegal?

I think they should ban the software realy.
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Not all things you download are illegal, only copyrighted ones are, for example, movie trailers are not illegal, you can download them without worrying.
 
Limewire and P2P downloading per se is not illegal, there are numerous non-copyrighted files you can download, freeware, program trials, movie trailers, home movies, etc. They're fine. It would be a shame to abandon a whole technology just because of some of the uses people exploit. It'd be like saying to ban cars because people can be run over with them.

Unfortunately the sites that employ P2P technology never make a distinction between that which is legal, and that which is not. That's the problem.
 
I hope I can say this without being chastized...

People do steal, and it is wrong, but I have to admit, there was a band somebody recommended to me named Era. They are an obscure band, and I wanted to learn something about them before I rushed out to spend $50 on CDs. So, I downloaded some of their tracks with limewire and took a listen to them. I loved the music. Fantastic stuff. Very gothic. So, I went down to the my friend's store and ordered all of their albums (unfortunately they were special order only and I had to wait weeks to get them, but it was worth it).

I don't advocate stealing anything, but is it fair to suggest that limewire might serve a legitimate purpose??
 
it might be, but in the eyes of the law you would have been seen as stealing.

limewire can be used for legitimate perposes as mentioned earlier in the thread
 
SirKenin said:
I hope I can say this without being chastized...

People do steal, and it is wrong, but I have to admit, there was a band somebody recommended to me named Era. They are an obscure band, and I wanted to learn something about them before I rushed out to spend $50 on CDs. So, I downloaded some of their tracks with limewire and took a listen to them. I loved the music. Fantastic stuff. Very gothic. So, I went down to the my friend's store and ordered all of their albums (unfortunately they were special order only and I had to wait weeks to get them, but it was worth it).

I don't advocate stealing anything, but is it fair to suggest that limewire might serve a legitimate purpose??
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What you've just said there is analagous to someone going into a candy store and stealing a box of candy and taking it home and scoffing their face. Then them liking that candy so much that they go back and legitimately buy several more boxes of the same candy, and give back the money that they lost from the original stolen box of candy.

Regardless of what you do following the download of copyrighted songs from Limewire to make up for it, you're still illegally downloading. There is no grey area here, the purpose you have spelled out is not legitimate, plain and simple. There are other legitimate ways you can sample music, including Amazon's 30 second samples.
 
I had no idea Amazon had samples of anything... :o

Ok, again, I don't want to come across as advocating anything illegal. Anything but. If it's illegal, that's fine, I understand.

30 seconds though? How do you evaluate anything in 30 seconds? I don't know if I could do that.

To me it's like shareware. You download a fully functioning version. If you like it, you buy it, otherwise it cripples itself. If you don't like it, you delete it.

I know the RIAA was hopelessly against the sharing of music because sales dropped, but when they realized that if they stopped gouging for CDs and started embracing technology, everyone profited.

I don't know. I have to admit I sit on the fence on this one. Maybe it is the centrist in me.

Anyways, in Canada the Supreme Court ruled that it is legal to upload music files to the internet, so I did nothing wrong. I am pleased with my approach anyways, Supreme Court ruling or no. I liked it, I bought it, as I do with everything. I don't have any music on my computer that I don't have on CD. I have hundreds of CDs. I even told the record store that I had previously sampled the music, loved it and now was buying it. His comment was "Great! It is good to see people supporting the music industry".

I don't know what your Laws are in the USA though, so don't take my word for it. They could be very different down there.
 
SirKenin said:
To me it's like shareware. You download a fully functioning version. If you like it, you buy it, otherwise it cripples itself. If you don't like it, you delete it.
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Yes, but music isn't shareware, it doesn't stop playing after 30 days. And it would be more trouble than it's worth employing that technology, because the same people who illegally download to start with would just find ways around the shareware technology, which happens today with software programs.

In moralistic terms your scenario may be the better option, but this thread is talking about the legalities, and those are staring you in the face.
 
p2p for file transfer?

..greetings,

.....let me ask a question this way....i have a p2p program that seems to work well. however, using other programs, i tried to transfer a file to my friend in another state and could not "link up" (so-to-speak).

....i have a router and 2 firewalls installed and i assume it was for that reason. however, why will a p2p program get through? (please don't ask me to open ports!).

.....so, if he and i both had the same p2p program and i named a file that he would recognize and since the p2p seems to get files alright so far, would he then be able to get it from me using p2p??
 
SirKenin said:
I hope I can say this without being chastized...

People do steal, and it is wrong, but I have to admit, there was a band somebody recommended to me named Era. They are an obscure band, and I wanted to learn something about them before I rushed out to spend $50 on CDs. So, I downloaded some of their tracks with limewire and took a listen to them. I loved the music. Fantastic stuff. Very gothic. So, I went down to the my friend's store and ordered all of their albums (unfortunately they were special order only and I had to wait weeks to get them, but it was worth it).

I don't advocate stealing anything, but is it fair to suggest that limewire might serve a legitimate purpose??
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Similar to what magicman said, if you have Windows Media Player, you can listen to 30-second previews for millions of songs.
 
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