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sandcracker21

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how does this look? i am trying to buy a new gaming PC....im looking for power but cheap....I already have a 17 inch flat screen monitor and a printer...

is there anything better for cheaper? this seams pretty resonable:

XPS 630:

Intel® Core™2 E8500 (6MB,3.16 GHz, 1333FSB) D1E85H [223-5586] 1

Operating System:
Genuine Windows® XP Professional with re-installation CD WPXP [330-0283][412-0688][420-4927][420-5769][420-5924][420-7975] 11

Memory:
3GB Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM at 667MHz - 4 DIMMs 3GB64 [311-8291] 3

Hard Drive:
500GB - 7200RPM, SATA 3.0Gb/s, 16MB Cache 500S [341-6286] 8

Optical Drive:
Single Drive: 16X CD/DVD burner (DVD+/-RW) w/double layer write capability 16DVDRW [313-6080][420-7205][420-7206][420-8152] 16


Video Card:
Dual nVidia GeForce 8800 GT 512MB NV8800D [320-6362] 6

Physics Game Accelerator:
AGEIA® PhysX® physics accelerator PHYSX [320-6295] 200

Sound Cards:
Integrated 7.1 Channel Audio IS [313-2758] 17
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this is clearly a dell, and will run about 2 grand.... i may also go with 4 gb of ram instead of 3....

i need some advise with this...its seams reasonable
 
Well simply said, if you are willing to go and build yourself you would end up saving a fair bit of money.

And although I am not sure about this, Physics cards aren't that amazing with todays game.
 
also, what is the pros of having a duel graphics card? i dont understand and would like some answers as far as what i need for gaming
 
2 grand? OVERPRICED!

Dual graphic cards - For nVidia cards, called SLi (scalable link interface), and ATi - CrossFire, using 2/3 cards as one. You'd think you get double the speed n' everything wouldn't you? Nope. You'd get from a 10-33% increase in overall performance. Either way, you just can't add up the memory or speeds.

I'd go custom if I were you. 2 grand is just way overpriced.
 
Like pretty much everyone else said, I would build a gaming system yourself for MUCH less money. I would also go for only one video card, as IMO going with SLi is a waste and money pit. Also, scrap the physics card. In today's games, it probably wouldn't do much in terms of helping your video card and cpu take a load off. Pretty sure most games don't employ the use of physics cards anyway.

When building your own system, not only does it cost a hell of a lost less, you also know all the parts in your system very well and upgrading your system later is effortless.
 
Steelshivan said:
Like pretty much everyone else said, I would build a gaming system yourself for MUCH less money. I would also go for only one video card, as IMO going with SLi is a waste and money pit. Also, scrap the physics card. In today's games, it probably wouldn't do much in terms of helping your video card and cpu take a load off. Pretty sure most games don't employ the use of physics cards anyway.

When building your own system, not only does it cost a hell of a lost less, you also know all the parts in your system very well and upgrading your system later is effortless.
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i am also trying to future proof my rig....but thanks for the advise. So most would not go with the duel graphics cards?

after looking into it, i believe you to be right... dell and alienware and all those other companies are so expensive!


what does everyone think of the company cyber power pc? http://www.cyberpowerpc.com/

they have a list of components and you build your own pc and they build it for you....i feel this is a good start but am weary....

ps. Thanks for alll the help so far!
 
1. Don’t buy Dell. They are among the worst manufacturers in existence.

2. Go custom. You can build your own computer for 1/2 the cost.

3. That video card is marginal. Although it will play most current games it will not be able to play future games on all max settings.

4. There is no reason to get XP Pro for a gaming comp. Go XP Home 64 bit.

5. That physics accelerator is a complete waste of money. It only works with games designed to make use of it, and at the moment you can count the number of games designed to make use of it on a single hand.

6. 667 MHz. RAM is not good enough for higher end gaming. I would go with a minimal of 800 MHz. RAM. However keep in mind the current standard for gaming rigs is 1066 MHz.

Overall I would give that rig a 3 out of 5 with 3 being the absolute minimal required to play most high end games.
 
RAM speed doesn't really matter that much, AFAIK the (marginal) performance gain between DDR2 800 and 1066 isn't enough to justify the price difference, though I do agree that DDR2 667 won't really do... Also, for a gaming system you'd better off getting Vista (Home Basic at min.) rather than XP, for a good variety of reasons.
 
audiobahn1000 said:
1. Don’t buy Dell. They are among the worst manufacturers in existence.

2. Go custom. You can build your own computer for 1/2 the cost.

3. That video card is marginal. Although it will play most current games it will not be able to play future games on all max settings.

4. There is no reason to get XP Pro for a gaming comp. Go XP Home 64 bit.


5. That physics accelerator is a complete waste of money. It only works with games designed to make use of it, and at the moment you can count the number of games designed to make use of it on a single hand.

6. 667 MHz. RAM is not good enough for higher end gaming. I would go with a minimal of 800 MHz. RAM. However keep in mind the current standard for gaming rigs is 1066 MHz.

Overall I would give that rig a 3 out of 5 with 3 being the absolute minimal required to play most high end games.
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Thank you for the input!

what about this setup? I can build it for about 1600, which is 300 CHEAPER than the dell!

CASE: Apevia X-Jupiter Full Tower Gaming Server w/ Temp Display and Fan Control 420 Watt Power (G Type Metallic Gray Color with Side-Window)

750W power upgrade thermaltake tough power quad sli ready

CPU: (Quad-Core)Intel® Core™ 2 Quad Q9450 @ 2.66GHz 1333FSB 12MB L2 Cache 64-bit

MOTHERBOARD: (QX9650 Support) Asus P5N-D nForce 750i SLI Chipset LGA775 FSB1333 DDR2 Mainboard

MEMORY: (Req.DDR2 MainBoard) 2GB (2x1GB) PC8500 DDR2/1066 Dual Channel Memory (Corsair Dominator)

VIDEO CARD: NVIDIA GeForce 9800 GTX 512MB 16X PCI Express (Major Brand Powered by NVIDIA)

VIDEO CARD 2: NVIDIA GeForce 9800 GTX 512MB 16X PCI Express (Major Brand Powered by NVIDIA)

VIDEO CARD 3: NONE

HARD DRIVE: Single Hard Drive (500GB SATA-II 3.0Gb/s 16MB Cache 7200RPM HDD)

Data Hard Drive: NONE

Optical Drive: LG 20X DVD±R/±RW + CD-R/RW DRIVE DUAL LAYER (BLACK COLOR)

Optical Drive 2: 16X DVD ROM (BLACK COLOR)

SOUND: HIGH DEFINITION ON-BOARD 7.1 AUDIO
 
sorry for the double post, but also...with this setup what does everyone think is an area that i could upgrade, or the weakest link of the setup? Thanks again!
 
no thanks, i am not looking to buy a used computer.....but what does everyone think of the setup i just showed?

what is the weakness of this model rig?
 
sandcracker21 said:
no thanks, i am not looking to buy a used computer.....but what does everyone think of the setup i just showed?

what is the weakness of this model rig?
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Saving money aside, I would get 4GB (2x2) memory with that setup.

However, if you are building, I would change most every component listed for better price/performance. Let me know if you are interested.
 
hackapelite said:
RAM speed doesn't really matter that much, AFAIK the (marginal) performance gain between DDR2 800 and 1066 isn't enough to justify the price difference, though I do agree that DDR2 667 won't really do... Also, for a gaming system you'd better off getting Vista (Home Basic at min.) rather than XP, for a good variety of reasons.
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What are the reasons to go with Vista as opposed to XP Pro? The same reasons apply for video editing and burning dvd's? I am researching to build my own computer and would like to know before I start purchasing parts. Thanks for any info.
 
Basically Vista is more secure, I think. If your going to go with 4gb ram then you will obviously need 64bit OS.
 
Vista for gaming (and anything else on a high-end computer), following reasons:
-DX10
-Security
-Better looks
-Most of the compatibility/whatnot issues/annoyances have been fixed
-Better support, "future-proofing"
-And the list goes on


Well, pretty much only reason to go with XP instead of Vista would be performance issues, but in case of the computer being built here that wouldn't really matter...
 
^^ There's a better explanation. I couldnt get the words to come out of my mouth and to the keyboard. LOL
 
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