Mobo doesn't support TRIM? Could this help? Thank you.

moogle301

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Hello

I was about to install W764-bit on my new SSD, I thought I had checked everything. Then I discovered that my motherboard (Asus A8N-SLI) does not support AHCI which is necessary for TRIM? and vital for SSDs?

Firstly, can anybody tell me if the above info correct (I am a beginner with all of this stuff), secondly I read somewhere that one of these could help because it has built in AHCI. Also will boost to SATA3 (though my SSD is only SATA2 3Gb/s).

I don't actually know what the above thing is, I shall have to research it more. Sadly it takes possibly a month to ship here and I was so ready to install, been putting it off for a month, thought I'd researched everything, everything was backed up and had all of my guides ready. >.<

My SSD is the Sandisk Ultra SDSSDH-120G-G25 SATA II SSD.

Any advice would be appreciated.
 
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It should. It probably has the SATA ports in IDE mode by default. Go in the bios and set them to run in AHCI/SATA mode.
 
I looked, looks like its either ide or raid, no ahci support.

Thanks for double-checking for me. Does this mean I am stuck? Somebody on another forum said this:

"You use windows 7. The motherboard isn't the issue..

SATA ports support AHCI. TRIM needs OS and SSD drive firmware support. Windows 7 support TRIM but Vista and XP don't. So, motherboard is not the issue.

"TRIM enables the SSD to handle garbage collection overhead, that would otherwise significantly slow down future write operations to the involved blocks, in advance." If you do not enable TRIM, SSD performance will eventually suffer."

but it is not a computer forum so idk if they know as much about technical stuff like this.
 
Upon googling the Sandisk Ultra SDSSDH-120G-G25 I'm not even sure whether it has TRIM... Does this change anything? Also this sounds promising.
 
I have the sata connectors set to ide on my motherboard and trim is enabled on my ssd---windows 7 suppports trim so you should be fine to install windows 7 on the ssd.
 
You don't need AHCI to have TRIM. It looks as if TRIM is a ATA protocol command. Plus its seems that some boards that only has a IDE/Compatibility or how ever its worded and RAID. If you enable RAID it will enable AHCI mode too. Don't know what chipsets that works on.
 
i've used this command- in start menu search type- cmd
right click cmd program & select run as admin. then in command line
type- fsutil behavior query DiasbleDeleteNotify
if response is DiasbleDeleteNotify=0 trim is enabled
if response is DiasbleDeleteNotify=1 trim is not enabled
it might come in handy later when u need to check new motherboard
or try it now to see if win 7 did enable trim
 
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Someone on another forum said: "Bad news. You have a very old AMD Socket 939 motherboard that was introduced in 2005. It was developed several years before consumer oriented solid state drives were introduced. It has an old NVIDIA chipset and does not support modern solid state drives. The motherboard is no longer in production. There is no system BIOS update or any other kind of update for it that would help you."

Arughhhh. >.< Can't even ask if they mean give up entirely or just don't expect great things because the forum is in read-only mode.

Does anybody know anything about/can verify the above? :|
 
Like said above, you can check to see if TRIM is enabled.

Verify TRIM. In Command Prompt (start / type:cmd / right click: cmd / run as admin = yes)
type(or copy/paste):

fsutil behavior query disabledeletenotify

If it shows as DisableDeleteNotify = 1, type: DisableDeleteNotify = 0 <and press enter> Run the check again to be sure that it says 0. 0 means TRIM is enabled.
 
Like said above, you can check to see if TRIM is enabled.

Verify TRIM. In Command Prompt (start / type:cmd / right click: cmd / run as admin = yes)
type(or copy/paste):

fsutil behavior query disabledeletenotify

If it shows as DisableDeleteNotify = 1, type: DisableDeleteNotify = 0 <and press enter> Run the check again to be sure that it says 0. 0 means TRIM is enabled.

I haven't actually put in the SSD yet (because I found out about the AHCI thing), should I still try this TRIM check now? Sorry for my confusion.
 
yes, go ahead and run the command to see if trim is enabled. i know raid will turn on ahci like said above. it should be alright, since windows 7 is what is going to run it.
 
yes, go ahead and run the command to see if trim is enabled. i know raid will turn on ahci like said above. it should be alright, since windows 7 is what is going to run it.

Welp, I installed my SSD and then Windows 64-bit onto that (clean install with an upgrade disc and then phonecall to Microsoft). Installed some RAM too. TRIM was enabled without me doing anything and stuff seems faster. :) (I didn't check before installing the SSD in the end). It's only recognising 3GB of my memory though.

I know my machine is outdated but aside from the SSD which I'd have put in any machine, I've spent nothing so far. I'll probably buy a stick of RAM for £10-15 but that's it! :)
 
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