Need help, Im desperate!!

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Bundy

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First off let me say hi to all of you out there! just joined the forum and looks like a great place to get info.... Hope to get help and possibly help you guys with a few things here and there....

I don't know what to do with my computer anymore, built it myself and never had an issue until now. I have a amd athlon 3200+ 64, a8v deluxe asus motherboard with 200mhz bus, a nvidia ge force 6600 gt 128 mb ram, 1.5 gig of DDRram and a 80 gig HD. Whenever I run any sort of high media (games, videos for long periods of time etc..) my system will hang up or even restart on itself without warning, would think that it's due to overheating but there is no warning siren coming from the computer to let my know that the chipset is having a heating issue.... any help would be appriciated

Thanks in advance
Bundy
 
oh yeah I also have latest drivers for video/sound cards and latest service pack for XP just so you folks know
 
Welcome to the forums, Bundy, we're happy you are here. :D

Try turning off the reboot on error:

System Properties, Advanced tab, Startup and Recovery Settings, uncheck the Automatically restart box.

Let's see what the BSOD gives us.

Does this happen only when operating an optical drive? Or do you think that the programs running when failure occurs are memory-intensive?

I'm thinking that you may have a RAM issue and/or a heating problem, as you suspected. If this only happens when you are using the optical drive, then it may be that drive is overheating and causing the crash. It's also possible that the RAM is getting hot and corrupting data, thereby causing the crash.

Regardless, it might be a good idea to run memtest86+ on all the memory. If you get any failures whatsoever, then you likely have a bad RAM stick.
 
Thanks for your reply,
guess I should have mentioned my last ditch attempt to get things working since you mentioned my ram getting hot, not aware of running any optical drive so you may need to explain that to me, but I tried to see if it was a heating issue so I took off the case shell and have a $20 wal-mart fan blowing on the motherboard and it does let me go a little further with more labor intensive programs (like F.E.A.R.) I can play for a half-hour/hour as opposed to 5 minutes, so the ram heating up I think may be the issue cause I also have Farcry and when the video settings are low it works for hours but if they're set highest (which is still smooth on the video) it locks and I gotta hard reset or it does it for me, just may need to get a fan set for my ram sticks but I'll also run those diag tools that you gave me
 
would think that it's due to overheating but there is no warning siren coming from the computer to let my know that the chipset is having a heating issue
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There is an alert feature of sorts that is triggered by the PC Probe application (but that means u need to have PC Probe running). To isolate whether or not the system is overheating use RivaTuner, Speedfan or MBM5 (links for these in Questions 101). Please have the program log temperatures as well as voltages
 
Ok, Im finally home and ran the dx diag and ran asus probe, asus probe I did a recording of all the processes and nothing even came close to the threshold when it came to temp..... dx diag did not find anything wrong wish I could upload it but the file size is too large... let me see if I can get the pics of my voltage and cpu temp, BTW oh yeah, opitcal drive :rolleyes: should have been able to just come up with that one myself
 
Is it possible that since I haven't upgraded my bios that that could be part of the issue?? I know that it's always important but looking around on the asus website it seems like upgrading the bios on my particular motherboard is nothing but a bad idea. I never upgraded my bios (on any computer) so I'm a little nervous about trying it but if it takes care of the issue then I'll do it....
 
Ok I tried to run memtest86+ and nothing came up bad plus I turned off the resart at system failure but it doesn't give me the BSOD so I don't even know what is going on......bout to give up I just don't know anymore
 
did you test you video card temp? Ausu probe i dont think will do video cards... to me it sounds like a video card heat problem. right before it crashes do you get any artifacts? try downloading a program to check the video card temp under load....
 
From my experience, your BIOS controls overheating problems by shutting down the system, not restarting or letting it get to the point where things hang up (by default, anyways).

I had a problem like you described. What I had done wrong was I set my CPU to clock at a certain speed; it turned out that was not compatible with the speeds of my RAM. You can go into your BIOS settings (when you boot up your computer) and change your CPU speed, probably slower. Or you can buy RAM that supports faster clock cycles, if that is in fact the problem.
 
the Admin responded and recommended Rivatuner. I downloaded it but looking at the program, I never used it so how would I record the temps from my video card? If you don't mind helping of course, thanks for the reply!
 
You would need to download a tool for you card like ATI has ATI TOOl and for Nvidia i think you can use a program called Riva Tuner. I know I do a lot of traveling with my desktop for land partys and at one point the HSF for the GPU came loose and when the video card would over heat in games it would show a lot of artifacts and freze up then just crash.
 
New development: started to play fear again just to see if there is anyway I can get the temps for my video card, the computer restarts on me and I have unchecked the "restart on system failure" button, is it my CPU?? :mad: :mad: :mad: still dont know how to record a session with riva tuner if anyone can help me with that, sorry to burden you guys with my crap but thanks for your help I really appriciate it


oh yeah and rouge, no, no artifacts. It appears normal but just locks
 
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was able to get my video card temps from riva tuner when running fear:
Core Clock
Base: 299.25
Highest: 501.43
Memory Clock
900 all through
Core VID
Base: 4.00
Highest: 7.00
Core Temp (I think that this is the problem, been wrong before though)
Base: 57c
Highest: 86c
 
asus probe I did a recording of all the processes and nothing even came close to the threshold when it came to temp.....
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yes but....
me said:
Please have the program log temperatures as well as voltages
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:)

Ausu probe i dont think will do video cards...
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It wont.

From my experience, your BIOS controls overheating problems by shutting down the system, not restarting or letting it get to the point where things hang up (by default, anyways).
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Thats for the system board + cpu only

the Admin responded and recommended Rivatuner. I downloaded it but looking at the program, I never used it so how would I record the temps from my video card? If you don't mind helping of course, thanks for the reply!
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for Nvidia i think you can use a program called Riva Tuner.
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You can use that for either

Base: 57c
Highest: 86c
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Temps are bit on the higher side but nothing unacceptale. NV4x cards only start to throttle down at 115C or something.
 
Well my when my video card (ATI x800lx) hit around those high 80s from the HSF being lose it would crash the computer... I would try either using some artic silver 5 on the stock HSF or even beter upgrade the HSF. Good luck :)
 
Yeah, it looks like you have a hardware problem, there, bud... it could be overheating in any number of areas. Does your chipset have a heatsink on it? You could try upgrading that or at least getting some thermail compound such as Arctic Silver 5 under it.
 
its funny you mention artic silver cause I just bought some this morning:D and read your post right after.... gonna put it on tonight see if it works and ill keep ya posted if you folks wanna know the outcome
 
Bundy said:
its funny you mention artic silver cause I just bought some this morning:D and read your post right after.... gonna put it on tonight see if it works and ill keep ya posted if you folks wanna know the outcome
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Of course we do! :D
 
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