need some input on a new tower

hydro_27 · Nov 8, 2004

I don't know much about the technical part of computers but I was hoping to buy a new tower for my dell. What would be the best and newest one to get? I need something farely cheap too, but with a good amount of memory and disk space. I need it to be able to install Adobe, Marcomedia, and a lot of other programs. I'm not even sure how much even a simple tower costs to be able to explain more of what I need. Any input is appreciated. Thanks!

Hydro

Cookieboro · Nov 8, 2004

I wouldnt buy a computer "cheap"...
Any computer you can buy for "cheap" is normaly not worth bothering with. The ammout of cash you are going to spend you could buy all the hardwear you will need for a decent running system.

hydro_27 · Nov 9, 2004

Would this be any good or would this be considered expensive compared to other decent computers out there?

Dell
Dimension 4700C
Pentium® 4 Processor 540 with HT Technology (3.20GHz, 800 FSB), Microsoft® Windows® XP Home Edition

$1,575.00/$48 a month

This would be my ideal computer, but would it be better to get a cheaper model? I just like how small it is b/c I don't have much space on my comp. desk.

GimpsGTP · Nov 9, 2004

make it yourself, you can make a pentium 4 3.2 for half that price, im currently making myself a pentium 4 3.0 , 512 ram, dvd burner, and a couple other things for about 650$us.
Nick

hydro_27 · Nov 9, 2004

wish I could

I really wish I would be able to make my own computer, but I'm am clueless when it comes to the technical part of computers. If I couldn't make one or find anyone that could, is that still too expensive for a computer?
Here are the complete details of the computer I want:

Dimension 4700C Qty 1
Pentium® 4 Processor 540 with HT Technology (3.20GHz, 800 FSB), Microsoft® Windows® XP Home Edition Unit Price $1,575.00

Dell Dimension 4700c Pentium® 4 Processor 540 with HT Technology (3.20GHz, 800 FSB) RM328H

Operating System Microsoft® Windows® XP Home Edition
Memory 1GB Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM at 400MHz (2x512M) 1GB4

Keyboard Dell USB Keyboard EK

Monitor No Monitor

Video Card Integrated Intel® Graphics Media Accelator 900 IV

Hard Drive 160GB SATA (7,200rpm) Hard Drive 160S

Floppy Drive and Additional Storage Devices 128MB Dell USB Memory Key 128MK

Mouse Dell USB 2-button scroll mouse SM

Network Interface Integrated 10/100 Ethernet IN

Modem Integrated 56K MDC Data / Fax modem IM

Document Management Adobe® Acrobat® Reader 6.0 AAREAD

CD and DVD Drives FREE UPGRADE! 24x CD-RW / DVD-ROM Combo Drive 24COMBP

Sound Card Integrated 5.1 Channel Audio IS

Speakers No Speaker Option N

Productivity Software WordPerfect®, Powerful Word Processing CORELM Security Software No Security Subscription NS2

Digital Music Dell Jukebox - easy-to-use music player and CD burning software MMBASE

Digital Photography Paint Shop™ Pro® Trial plus Photo Album™ Starter Edition DPS

Limited Warranty, Services and Support Options SAVE $80 instantly with the Premium Service Package plus Nights and Weekend QDHS4

Dial-Up Internet Access 6 Months EarthLink Internet Access Included ERTHLNK
Media Reader Solution 8 in 1 Media Card Reader with Front / Rear IEEE 1394 and Rear S/PDIF ports MCR

Choice of Mail-in Rebate or Dell Gift Card Save $200 with mail-in rebate. Price shown before rebate 200Q4

TOTAL: $1,575.00

this is what it looks like
Thanks in advance to anyone who read all the information above!

http://img.dell.com/images/global/products/dimen/4700c_chassis_front_314.jpg

Imaruki · Nov 9, 2004

Here's the same specs with a different proc: It's an AMD 64 2800+ which is faster than that P4 is:

Pro Source Luna Mid-Tower Case w/ Side Panel Window and 350W PS (Item#ABS11132030)

1

Standard

Allied AL-B450E 450 Watt Power Supply w/ Two Fans (Item#ABS17154010)

1

Standard

ASUS K8T800 Chipset Motherboard for AMD Socket 754 CPU, Model "K8V Deluxe" -RETAIL (Item#ABS13131490)

1

Standard

AMD Athlon 64 2800+, 512K L2 Cache, 64-bit Processor - OEM (Item#ABS19103450)

1

Standard

Thermaltake Silent Boost K8 Copper Heatsink and Fan for AMD Athlon 64 FX and Opteron (Item#ABS35106036)

1

Standard

Geil Value Series 512MB PC3200 DDR400 184-Pin (Item#ABS20144305)

2 pieces

$87

Maxtor 160GB SATA 7200RPM 8MB Cache (Item#ABS22144322)

1

$28

Albatron nVIDIA GeForce FX5200 Video Card, 128MB DDR, 64-bit, DVI/TV-Out, 8X AGP, "FX5200LP V2.0" (Item#ABS14170065)

1

Standard

SONY Black 16X DVD-ROM Drive, Model DDU1613/B2s, OEM (Item#ABS27101124)

1

Standard

Lite-On 52X32X52 Internal EIDE CD-RW Drive Black, Model SOHR-5238S Black, OEM (Item#ABS27106941)

1

Standard

Sony 1.44MB Floppy Drive (Black) (Item#ABS21103116)

1

$8.99

18" ATA133 Round IDE Cable (Transparent Black) (Item#ABS12104627)

1

$7.99

Aopen Internal 56K V.92 Voice/Data/Fax PCI Modem (Item#ABS25131005)

1

$13.49

Sandisk Cruzer USB Mini FlashDrive 256MB Model SDCZ2-256-A10 (Item#ABS20155415)

1

$35

Microsoft Multimedia Keyboard and Optical Wheel Mouse Value Pack (White) (Item#ABS23109118)

1

$30

Free Microsoft Works 7.0 (Item#ABS37110005)

1

$0

UBI SOFT FarCry DVD - Special AMD Bundle Offer - Limited Time Offer (Item#ABS37109001)

1

$0

IntelliMover "Migration Software"-Moves your e-mail; music; photos; files; folders; settings & more! (Item#ABS32188102)

1

$0

Microsoft Windows XP Home with Service Pack 1a (Item#ABS37110015)

1

Standard

Half Life Platinum Edition 2 - PC Game Retail (Item#ABS32128103)

1

$0

2Net 1 Year 24/7 Tech Support & Onsite Service | (Concurrent with Standard Warranty) (Item#ABS88101201)

1

Standard

Blue 8" x 9" x 6" ABS Mouse Pad (Item#ABS17114110)

1

Standard

ABS Computer System Binder for Organizing Drivers and Manuals (Item#ABS57101101)

1

Standard

FREE ABS Black Tee-Shirt - Size: XLarge with "ABS" Logo in the Front. (Item#ABS00999227)

1

$0

Price with Option(s): $1079.47

This is all built from http://abspc.com and I recommend these computers over Dell to all my customers.

hydro_27 · Nov 10, 2004

new computer

Thanks so much for taking the time to recommend the AMD 64. I'll will check into a little more.

Praetor · Nov 10, 2004

I need something farely cheap too, but with a good amount of memory and disk space.

Unfortunately with OEMs those are often mutually exclusive requirements

I'm not even sure how much even a simple tower costs to be able to explain more of what I need.

Prolly best to give us the budget and then we can spec the system.

I wouldnt buy a computer "cheap"...

Really depends

I really wish I would be able to make my own computer, but I'm am clueless when it comes to the technical part of computers.

Often small stores can install everythign for you (or even do custom comps) ... sure you'll pay $40-$100 or whatever for the installation but it'll still be cheaper

is that still too expensive for a computer?

Yes.

Lets have a look at your system:

Pentium® 4 Processor 540 with HT Technology (3.20GHz, 800 FSB) ... $250
Memory 1GB Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM at 400MHz (2x512M) 1GB4 .. $130
Keyboard Dell USB Keyboard EK ... $5
Monitor No Monitor ... $0
Video Card Integrated Intel® Graphics Media Accelator 900 IV .... $0 (comes with mobo)
Hard Drive 160GB SATA (7,200rpm) Hard Drive 160S ... $90
Floppy Drive ... $5
Additional Storage Devices 128MB Dell USB Memory Key 128MK ... no idea, not more than $25
Mouse Dell USB 2-button scroll mouse SM ... $10 (and thats generous)
Network Interface Integrated 10/100 Ethernet IN ... $0 (comes with mobo)
Modem Integrated 56K MDC Data / Fax modem IM ... $0 (comes with mobo)
Document Management Adobe® Acrobat® Reader 6.0 AAREAD ... $0
CD and DVD Drives FREE UPGRADE! 24x CD-RW / DVD-ROM Combo Drive 24COMBP ... free upgrade my ass they give you one drive instead of two and save $15 .... $35
Sound Card Integrated 5.1 Channel Audio IS ... $0 (comes with mobo)
Speakers No Speaker Option N ... $0
Productivity Software WordPerfect®, Powerful Word Processing CORELM Security Software No Security Subscription NS2
Digital Music Dell Jukebox - easy-to-use music player and CD burning software MMBASE
Digital Photography Paint Shop™ Pro® Trial plus Photo Album™ Starter Edition DPS ... sure whatever $100
Media Reader Solution 8 in 1 Media Card Reader with Front / Rear IEEE 1394 and Rear S/PDIF ports MCR ... $0 (its in the case)

Mobo ... $75 (and thats really goddamn generous).

What it really costs.... $790

Thanks so much for taking the time to recommend the AMD 64. I'll will check into a little more

.
Do note that the Socket754 Athlon there will eventually be discontinued although thats a hell of a long time from now and i concur with the reccomendation

hydro_27 · Nov 12, 2004

Thanks for all the help Admin and Imaruki!!

Praetor · Nov 13, 2004

Glad we could add some perspective

jcline · Nov 14, 2004

Hey hydro, what are you going to primarily going to be doing w/ this new PC? Gaming or just everday all around decent PC?

Any computer you can buy for "cheap" is normaly not worth bothering with

Absolutely agree! You get what you pay for...

Praetor · Nov 14, 2004

hrydo:
Well the system i noted is more suited as a generalpurpose box. To get a gaming box out of that would require upping the mobo and video card

hydro_27 · Nov 16, 2004

jcline said:
Hey hydro, what are you going to primarily going to be doing w/ this new PC? Gaming or just everday all around decent PC?

Actually I'm using this computer to design web pages.
I ended up just buying the computer with the athlon processor from abspc.com. I just realized that I got the tower and it doesn't have a zip drive (at least I think it doesn't

), but I did get a video card.
I just feel a little strange not knowing about the technical part of computers yet I work on web pages.

hydro_27 · Nov 16, 2004

Praetor said:
hrydo:
Well the system i noted is more suited as a generalpurpose box. To get a gaming box out of that would require upping the mobo and video card

what is mobo?

Does that system have a zip drive? I really hope so b/c I ended up buying one of those towers.
(Is calling it a tower even the right word to use?)

jcline · Nov 16, 2004

I just feel a little strange not knowing about the technical part of computers yet I work on web pages

haha, don't feel strange, two different worlds really...

Praetor · Nov 17, 2004

what is mobo?

Motherboard ... the big board you plug the CPU into

Does that system have a zip drive?

That?

hydro_27 · Nov 17, 2004

That?

this is what I got but with some upgrades that aren't listed...but I don't see anything about a zip drive. I guess if it's possible I'll just buy an external zip drive. I need a zip drive because that's where my portfolio is saved. :\

Processor:
AMD Athlon 64 2800+ Windows-Compatible 64-Bit

Operating System:
Windows XP Home Edition

Memory:
512MB DDR PC-3200 DDR400

Video Card:
GeForce FX 5200 128MB

Hard Drive:
80 GB 7200RPM 8M Cache SATA

Sound Card:
Onboard 6-channel Audio

Optical Drive:
16X DVD-ROM
52X32X52CD-RW

TECH SPECS
Up to AMD Athlon 64 3700+ Windows-Compatible 64-bit Processor

Up to 3GB PC3200 DDR400 SDRAM

Up to 2 x 250GB 7,200RPM SATA Hard Drives

6 x USB 2.0,2x1394, 1 x 10/100Mbps NIC

WARRANTY
1 Year 24/7 Tech Support & Onsite Service
1 Year Parts, Labor and Tech Support

Praetor · Nov 17, 2004

but I don't see anything about a zip drive.

Youre best off buying a ZIP drive

hydro_27 · Nov 19, 2004

Praetor said:
Youre best off buying a ZIP drive

An external one?

Praetor · Dec 4, 2004

Or internal its up to you. Paying for it to come with the system will cost a pretty penny

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