New Computer Slow Start Up Time

joueconn

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Hello All,

I have just purchased a Toshiba Portege R705 to replace my old Gateway t6836. In theory, the Toshiba should be faster; however, it takes 30 seconds longer to boot than the Gateway. From pressing power to entering the web, it takes the Toshiba about 2 minutes.

I entered msconfig and disabled a number of non-essential programs (best buy bloatware, quicktime, itunes; however, the problem persists.

Can you offer me any suggestions?

I sincerely thank you in advance for your time and consideration.

- Joe
 
So this has been happening ever since you got it? Or did this just start happening? Check the event viewer for any errors regarding startup programs having issues. Right click on "my computer" click on manage, click on event viewer. Look under either system or application for the errors.
 
A thought I had was, did you buy the computer new or used?

Sometimes if you buy things from rent-to-own centers they re-sell items people have brought back in, or items which have been repossessed.
 
Go into control panel and actually uninstall your bloatware, once you've uninstalled it all download and install Ccleaner and run the cleaner and the registry cleaner.

Give that a shot and we'll go from there.
 
Event Viewer

Thank you for your prompt replies.

First, the new Toshiba R705 (I3 / 2.26 GHz / Windows 7) is now taking 1.5 minutes to boot, about thirty seconds longer than my old Gateway T6836 (I2 / 2.0 GHz). This surprises me because the Gateway is slower and loaded with software.

Second, every time I restart the Toshiba critical errors and warnings are registered in the event viewer. I took the computer to Best Buy (where it was originally purchased) and their technicians were not sure if this is actually a problem. Aside from a slow boot time, the performance of the Toshiba seems normal.

Third, I looked at the event viewer in a few other computers and noticed they too had errors. This makes me think that the event viewer errors on my Toshiba are common to all or many pc computers.

In light of this, I guess I will keep the Toshiba, though I am surprised at the slow boot time, particularly when my colleagues have similarly spec'd computers that start up much faster.

Your thoughts and comments are appreciated, particularly as they to that pesky event viewer...
 
Apart from the alarming errors you are getting, you could start up Task Manager/Processes Tab as soon as you can, to see which processes if any are holding things up.

When I used Bit Defender it would do a scan as everything was trying to start up. Stretched boot to 2 minutes. After going to Avast from AVG, I found Avast was trying to update as everything was trying to start up (even delayed start did not help). I went to manual update only. Illustrations of how unwanted updates and scans can mess things up.
 
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The "technicians" at best buy barely even know how to turn a computer on, let alone decipher event viewer logs.

What errors are you getting?
 
Critical error messages read:

"Background optimizations (prefetching) took longer to complete, resulting in a performance degradation in the system start up process..."

I think these error messages may be innocuous. Maybe my new laptop is just a little slow to boot up...
 
I guess we could consider that a Geek Squad fail? Geek Squad/best buy will rape you if you ever take your pc in to get worked on. I was there one day listening to the tech talk to a couple that brought their desktop pc in that was infected and by the time he got done quoting them how much it would cost to fix, it was over $200. I politely went up to them and told the couple who I was and that I work on computers and only lived like 10 minutes from them. I told them I could remove their infections for like 25-50 bucks depending on how bad it was infected. I gave them my phone number but needless to say they never called me.

If any erros show up in event viewer then there is a problem somewhere.

You may want to try deleting all items in your prefetch folder located here.

c:\windows\prefetch

Then reboot your system and it will automatically replace the items in that folder. NOTE: it might take a little longer to get to your desktop the first time you boot up after deleting items in the prefetch folder but give it a few reboots and see if the speed comes back.
 
I guess we could consider that a Geek Squad fail? Geek Squad/best buy will rape you if you ever take your pc in to get worked on. I was there one day listening to the tech talk to a couple that brought their desktop pc in that was infected and by the time he got done quoting them how much it would cost to fix, it was over $200. I politely went up to them and told the couple who I was and that I work on computers and only lived like 10 minutes from them. I told them I could remove their infections for like 25-50 bucks depending on how bad it was infected. I gave them my phone number but needless to say they never called me.

If any erros show up in event viewer then there is a problem somewhere.

You may want to try deleting all items in your prefetch folder located here.

c:\windows\prefetch

Then reboot your system and it will automatically replace the items in that folder. NOTE: it might take a little longer to get to your desktop the first time you boot up after deleting items in the prefetch folder but give it a few reboots and see if the speed comes back.
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I had some problems with a few of my local Best Buys Geeks, it took some direct talking to get them to agree not to try sticking it to me with a laptop setup charge. Also not to try charging me for a service package for use later.

Best Buy makes everyone buying any computer, checkout at the Geek Squad counter.
This is how they get you setup for and ambush from the Geeks. I have watched them give their sales pitch to many this past Month, the setup charge is a $100 dollar adder, they say they check the system and remove unwanted software. Funny thing they don't remove the Best Buy direct software buy software. This they some how forget to remove.
Then there is a major sell for the Best Buy extended warranty. Man they push it hard and harder if you try telling them you don't want it.

I found if I just say ok I just will not buy today, they quickly say let me chack with my manager. Soon they come back and tell me Ok, we will defer our setup charge. You still better check your sales slip closely as they still try sneaking a few extra charges on you.

If you do find them you can alway visit customer service, they seem to already know of the geek scams and will quickly remove from credit cards or refund if paid with cash any of the charges.

I have made friends with two Geek Squad guys, and they don't try giving me a work over, they just let me pay for my stuff and leave.

As with any place you deal with you just have to be on guard and be ready to tell some people NO!! and make them understand it.:)
 
If Best Buy seriously mandates extra "service" charges I will never buy or recommend anyone to buy at Best Buy. That's totally unacceptable to say it's a mandatory item, especially since they do a whole load of nothing to the computers to get them "setup". I did an in home setup for a client, who paid the extra $100 for Futureshop's setup..There was literally nothing I could see that they did..all the bloatware and garbage was still present.
 
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Why would best buy remove the bloatware?! Best Buy probably has deals with advertisers and other companies to put that stuff on there.
 
IS it brand New ? Have you got warranty on it ? If so, why don't you just bring it back to the original store, usually, they will be able to help you out :confused: ?:cool:
Thank you for your prompt replies.

First, the new Toshiba R705 (I3 / 2.26 GHz / Windows 7) is now taking 1.5 minutes to boot, about thirty seconds longer than my old Gateway T6836 (I2 / 2.0 GHz). This surprises me because the Gateway is slower and loaded with software.

Second, every time I restart the Toshiba critical errors and warnings are registered in the event viewer. I took the computer to Best Buy (where it was originally purchased) and their technicians were not sure if this is actually a problem. Aside from a slow boot time, the performance of the Toshiba seems normal.

Third, I looked at the event viewer in a few other computers and noticed they too had errors. This makes me think that the event viewer errors on my Toshiba are common to all or many pc computers.

In light of this, I guess I will keep the Toshiba, though I am surprised at the slow boot time, particularly when my colleagues have similarly spec'd computers that start up much faster.

Your thoughts and comments are appreciated, particularly as they to that pesky event viewer...
 
So...

1) I tested three Toshiba Portege R705 laptops at Best Buy. Every single one listed critical errors and warnings in the event viewer related to start-up and power down performance.
2) I also tested my current Gateway computer, as well as a number of other display computers at Best Buy. Every single computer had critical errors and warnings in the event viewer related to start-up and power down performance.

All the above laptops were running Windows 7.

Perhaps some of those who commented above could run the following test on their PCs and see if they come across errors as well: control panel > administrative tools > event viewer > applications and services > microsoft > windows > diagnosis performance > operational.
 
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So...

1) I tested three Toshiba Portege R705 laptops at Best Buy. Every single one listed critical errors and warnings in the event viewer related to start-up and power down performance.
2) I also tested my current Gateway computer, as well as a number of other display computers at Best Buy. Every single computer had critical errors and warnings in the event viewer related to start-up and power down performance.

All the above laptops were running Windows 7.

Perhaps some of those who commented above could run the following test on their PCs and see if they come across errors as well: control panel > administrative tools > event viewer > applications and services > microsoft > windows > diagnosis performance > operational.

Mine has them too..it seems to be a way of monitoring boot performance, not actually an error, as I can't find any actual error in these...just booting information.
 
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