New compy together but i have small problems

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donjuan1jr

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So if you havent read my last posts, i wanted to take my dell 8300 and put most of it in a new case. I got a logysis case, thermaltakepolo735 rev.2 4 in 1 cooler for the cpu and an abit aI7. I read the reviews on the tt hsf and most people were getting good results form it so i decided to pick it up. Now it has the knob on it not the diode since my mobo comes with one. My processor is the p4 3.00ghz pressy with ht socket 478. My problem is that with the hsf up all the way at 5700rpms, my cpu is still running at idle between 45-47 degrees celcius. I used from what ive read is the right amount of artic silver and even folled their directions form their website. It did say there is a breakin period...is this true? I just got everything together last nite and want to overclock but not with the temps im running now...btw i have a 120 in back blowing out and 800 on the side in...the other 120 for the front is on its way.
 
Prescotts do run hotter than a 478 so your idle temps aren't way off what is considered normal. Try this simple test: Record your temps at idle and under load. Take the side panel off and direct a fan to blow into the case, check temps. If the fan temp is lower than the closed case then your airflow is not the best it could be. If there is no change then your current airflow is proper.
The thermal compound needs a short breakin to "melt" the compound into all the scratches on the hs and cpu.
 
So i took the side off and put a fan facing the mobo and the cpu temp dropped from like 49 to 45 degrees while the northbridge dropped from 35 to 30 or 31 fluxuating back and forth. Ima try and move the wires around to get better air flow and maybe reaply the artic silver..maybe thats my problem.
 
I have one 120mm fan blowing out in the back and an 80mm blowing in on the side...right now im waiting on a thermaltake 120mm fan for the front to blow in. Im also thinking of upgrading to knob controlled fans to replace the stockers since i dont think they are that great. Also i reaplied the thermal compound and applied what i believe is the right amount and now its running with the fan on 3700rpms, and the cpu is running idle at 46-48 degrees celcius.
Also i have noticed that my psu is running at 40c and my nb at 35c..think it may be the case?
 
I also just checked and when running wofenstien enemy terrirtory, my cpu is running at 60degrees celcius. I dont know what to try but anything else.
 
With the addition of another 120 fan you will have a balanced airflow, 120 in, 80 in, 120 out 1nd 80 out on the psu. Should be fine. Check to see if you have used too much thermal cmpd as too much will cause overheating just like too little. Keep in mind the thermal cmpd is only going to fill in any nicks or scratches in the sh and cpu surfaces. Also keep in mind that most Bios temps are "adjusted" to register a bit high on the cpu side.
 
donjuan1jr said:
think it may be the case?
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Well if when you take the side off your temps go down then yes. If you take the side off and the temps drop they you know it's not a thermal paste issue it's a air flow problem. try tieing all your wires up nice and maybe even modding the case for new, faster, and/or better fans.
 
Well i reaplied the thermalpaste like a bunch of times. First i think i did it right most all of teh times cuz the temps were always the same. For the last time i used it i used even less than i did the other times. On monday i got another package, which included another 120mm fan which is front intake. Now im thinking that the heat is caused by the case because when i turn it on, the cpu runs cool, around 45c. When i play a video game it goes up to upper 50s and lower 60s then afte ritll drop down and not go below 49 or 50. I just ordered a sunbeam overclockers kit form xoxide because it was on sale for like 6 bux so if it works for a couple degrees ill be happy. I also ordered a thermaltake 120mm smartfan for rear exuast cuz the one that came with the case is kind of crappy. For mods im going to take the crappy stock 120 and use it as an exaust on top, another 80mm intake on the side in the bottom left corner to hit some air by the video card and cut a hole in the sid edirctly over the cpu for the overclocker kit. Im also going to cut some of those restrictive slits on the backside of the rear exaust fan. If after all of these mods im still running kinda hot, im just gunna give up and call it a ko from a pressy.

oh and btw my room temps are kind of high rite now.
 
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So i put in my 120mm thermaltake smart fan with the knob...temps went down by like a degree. I also got the ducting kit hanging out the back to simulate it on the side until i can cut the hole this weekend. At the lowest my comp is running which is 43, i know is good but i want cooler. First ima try to sand the heatsink and get some a silver 5 and see if temps go any lower. If that doesnt work then Im thinking of getting a silent tower since ive heard good reviews on em. But i did hear good reviews for this polo 735 so im kind of leary. I kind of just want this project to be over.
 
I would advise against "sanding" your hsf. I have extremely fine polishing paper and polishing compound and using that to polish the hsf made it worse. The hsf's are factory polished and very flat. DIY polishing does not "usually" work and can create a worse problem.
I would suggest trying a Zalman hsf with the 120mm fan, I found it to substantially lower temps in my computers.
 
It did say there is a breakin period...is this true?
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Yes its true but you wont notice anything like a 20C drop or anything maybe 1-2

This is all the reviews from ppl at newegg
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Dont put too much faith in Newegg reviews ... Newegg doesnt ;)

and an 80mm blowing in on the side...
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Try having this as exhaust

With the addition of another 120 fan you will have a balanced airflow,
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Depends on how the front of the case is cluttered ... usually its a lot harder to get steady airflow in than it is to get air out....

I would advise against "sanding" your hsf. I have extremely fine polishing paper and polishing compound and using that to polish the hsf made it worse. The hsf's are factory polished and very flat.
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The thermaltakes arent always that great (although they are usually more than sufficient for everyone really) ... of course the problem with this cooling config is the efficiency of the cooler itself ... something like a SilentTower (or really anything with heatpipes to get the heat away from the base of the HSF ASAP is needed otherwise the heat conduction efficiency of the 'sink goes to crap)
 
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