PCIe 1x Videocard help

jutnm

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okais im having problems with vista ultiamte and its not noticing my sound chip, i need to know where to find a PCIe x1 sound card, all my other pci slots are covered by the huge heat sink of my videocard.
 
PCI-E is PCI-Express for video cards not sound! Without any standard pci slots free where internal sound cards are installed you may have to look at usb sound devices. Being in Canada not the U.S.? you will have to start looking at TIgerDirect.CA or another Canadien vendor since newegg doesn't ship to Caanada. And newegg isn't the only U.S. vendor that can save on costs.

(Sometimes you can find them higher then others on things. :eek: ! Price comparison between the vendors available makes far more sense. :D Otherwise the vendors make more dollars! :mad: )
 
wait im not canadian, but ya oo i well my question should of been do they make pci x1 sound cards???? but ya i checked both sites. thanks neways
 
PCI-E is PCI-Express for video cards not sound!

PCI-Express is not just for video cards. You might want to do research before opening your mouth, because you don't seem to know much.
However, for the original poster' answer: PCI-Express soundcards are extremely hard to find, as most are still just PCI.
 
PCI-Express is not just for video cards. You might want to do research before opening your mouth, because you don't seem to know much.

I could "easily" respond to that but letting facts "speak for themseilves" goes a lot further! :rolleyes:

PCI Express Soundcards?
Unfortunately, audio interface manufacturers seem to have, so far, collectively ignored PCI Express, in favour of Firewire and USB 1.1 and 2.0, with some still releasing new PCI-based cards, particularly at the budget end of the market. This is, perhaps, understandable: PCI is now a very mature and well understood technology, and there's also no denying the attractiveness of Firewire and USB interfaces that don't require you to open up your PC to install them. In addition, the number of musicians with PCI Express slots in their PCs (at the moment) must be relatively small. However, unlike PCI, PCI Express specifically supports time-dependent data transfers that are designed to guarantee that data arrives at its intended destination on time, which is ideal for real-time processes such as video and audio streaming. With this in mind, audio interface manufacturers ought to be falling over themselves to support PCI Express. I also suspect that some manufacturers must be secretly working on new PCI Express products, and if I can persuade some of them to reveal more I'll let you know. http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/sep05/articles/pcnotes.htm

Creative has tinkered with the idea but only two companies have gone into manufacturing of PCI to PCI-E type adapters. http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=3774
 
What was plain and simple was the development of adapters for using a pci type card for PCI-E 1x slots by two companies in one article. Creative Labs is one of the two leading makes for sound cards/devices with "Available PCI 2.1 slot" seen as one of the requirements on their latest models. In fact the only manufacturer is actually looking into marketing a 1x card is Asus in the March 2007 article seen at http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2007/03/16/sounds_of_asus_heard_in_hannover/
 
PCI-E is PCI-Express for video cards not sound! Without any standard pci slots free where internal sound cards are installed you may have to look at usb sound devices. Being in Canada not the U.S.? you will have to start looking at TIgerDirect.CA or another Canadien vendor since newegg doesn't ship to Caanada. And newegg isn't the only U.S. vendor that can save on costs.

(Sometimes you can find them higher then others on things. :eek: ! Price comparison between the vendors available makes far more sense. :D Otherwise the vendors make more dollars! :mad: )http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=3774

Wow, you're right. PCI-E is only for sound. That's why they have PCI-E x16 NICs and HDD controllers. That's also why PCI-E x1 GPUs are so popular... because the interface is obviously meant for it.

What was plain and simple was the development of adapters for using a pci type card for PCI-E 1x slots by two companies in one article. Creative Labs is one of the two leading makes for sound cards/devices with "Available PCI 2.1 slot" seen as one of the requirements on their latest models. In fact the only manufacturer is actually looking into marketing a 1x card is Asus in the March 2007 article seen at http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2007/03/16/sounds_of_asus_heard_in_hannover/

Yep, right again. ASUS is the only company even looking into PCI-E sound cards. That's why creative has a prototype for one:
http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/multimedia/display/20070111140528.html
creaf_xfi_pcie_small.jpg


Oh, and not to mention this one from Broadcom: (Not really the average user's sound card, but still a sound card)
ASI_6620_soundcard_full.jpg
 
PCI-E is PCI-Express for video cards not sound!

There you go again, saying that like it is fact. PCIe is not just for video cards! Ever heard the expression built it and they will come. Ever wonder what happen to ISA slots. In time PCIe will replace the standard PCI slot just like PCI did to ISA.
 
Yep, right again. ASUS is the only company even looking into PCI-E sound cards. That's why creative has a prototype for one:
http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/multimedia/display/20070111140528.html

Oh, and not to mention this one from Broadcom: (Not really the average user's sound card, but still a sound card)

As mentioned earlier: "Creative has already been tinkering with...". But you seemed to have ignored the reference there. :rolleyes: The article for Asus only confirmed that some companies are finally get into gear in this area for use in the average desktop and not a "specialty item" for professional application only.You will notice the dates all show 2007 for desktop application.
 
The point is you said, did you not!

Quote:
Originally Posted by PC eye
PCI-E is PCI-Express for video cards not sound!
 
PCI-E is PCI-Express for video cards not sound! Without any standard pci slots free where internal sound cards are installed you may have to look at usb sound devices. Being in Canada not the U.S.? you will have to start looking at TIgerDirect.CA or another Canadien vendor since newegg doesn't ship to Caanada. And newegg isn't the only U.S. vendor that can save on costs.

(Sometimes you can find them higher then others on things. :eek: ! Price comparison between the vendors available makes far more sense. :D Otherwise the vendors make more dollars! :mad: )


The point that PC eye was trying to make, is that PCI-Express is not the norm for sound cards. I don't see why you try to throw out the normalities Styrak. You need to try and comprehend the posts before YOU open YOUR mouth. PC eye doesn't need research, he has helped me out plenty of times.
 
Geez can you guys just not drop something, you're all like little terrier dogs or something...

Right, PC_Eye, we don't care what you "meant" or "implied" everyone here is digging at your first point which has been quoted back to you, it was a statement that said PCI-e was for GPU's not sound cards... you can forgive everyone for perhaps jumping to conclusions, but that is just a tiny bit of a misleading statement.

To everyone else having a go at PC_Eye, will ya just chill out for 30 mins and have a look at how petty you're being... seriously, one guys mistake in one single post has now gone completely from the author's question by 10 posts....

Get back on topic and drop the whole PCI-e thing

dragon2309
 
Geez can you guys just not drop something, you're all like little terrier dogs or something...

Right, PC_Eye, we don't care what you "meant" or "implied" everyone here is digging at your first point which has been quoted back to you, it was a statement that said PCI-e was for GPU's not sound cards... you can forgive everyone for perhaps jumping to conclusions, but that is just a tiny bit of a misleading statement.

To everyone else having a go at PC_Eye, will ya just chill out for 30 mins and have a look at how petty you're being... seriously, one guys mistake in one single post has now gone completely from the author's question by 10 posts....

Get back on topic and drop the whole PCI-e thing

dragon2309

It's not the fact that he's wrong that gets me, people are wrong all the time. But when I make a mistake, I'll be the first to admit it. "Yeah, ok, I said something without really knowing very much about it... I'll look it up before I open my mouth again." Is that really that hard?

It just bothers me how PC Eye seems to make baseless claims, or incorrectly refute others, and he'll always be so condescending about it, but I think finally some of the moderators are starting to take notice.

And yes, PC Eye, I did see how you said that Creative was 'tinkering' with PCI-E sound cards, and I knew that you would bring that up, but you also went after that and said that ASUS was the only company planning to market them. Displaying a prototype and releasing information to the public seems to be a little bit more than 'tinkering' to me... in fact, I would say that it falls under the category of marketing.
 
If they have sound cards or not its besides the point, its not just for video like he said. They have Serial-Firewire-Ethernet-Parallel-Sata and USB PCIe cards too!
 
It just bothers me how PC Eye seems to make baseless claims, or incorrectly refute others, and he'll always be so condescending about it, but I think finally some of the moderators are starting to take notice.
Oooh, believe me, it is not going un-noticed at all... steps are being taken

dragon2309
 
Okay, Sorry,Dragon2309 but I must mention this once more. PC eye was just trying to say that PCI-e Sound Cards are NOT the normality. No one is wrong. You guys just need to comprehend and think about what he said, he didn't mean it in a way that the PCI-e cards didn't exist. Now will you please end this.
 
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