Programs not starting, very slow to boot and shut down..

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janus

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Ok, so I'm in the long process of learning about drivers, software and optimizing the running of my computer. Basically the problem I have at this stage is that I've loaded a lot of programs which came with all my components, just stuff which came with the graphics card, the mobo, the screen etc. I've got C: drive partitioned as 10G with all my operating stuff, Windows XP, Office etc. Then I'm using D: 180G to save files and load programs I don't necessarily think I'll want to keep.

Sometimes there's no option during the installation process to select where you want the program installed to, so some go to C: without my input, other's I've installed to D:

Quicktime freezes when I try to use it
I can't install Limewire, the computer just freezes up during installation (I've tried downloading it as an offline installation too, still doesn't work)
I downloaded the 1.3 doom patch, the installation doesn't work, it freezes.
I've got a java client for my work login, it doesn't work, nothing happens when I try to log in, it should launch a web based desktop..

why are my newly installed programs either not working, or just flat out not installing?

Does anyone have a process for loading a computer from scratch to ensure maximum software operating stability? I'm just kinda loading things as I please..

Thanks :)
 
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Sometimes there's no option during the installation process to select where you want the program installed to, so some go to C: without my input, other's I've installed to D:
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I would reccomend keeping everything on the same drive/partition

Does anyone have a process for loading a computer from scratch to ensure maximum software operating stability? I'm just kinda loading things as I please..
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Sure ... reinstall the system and make sure all your software and stuff installs to the same parition (generally C drive) ... becuase unless you specified otherwise at some point somewhere, everything defaults to C :)

Installing XP
 
So my problem now is, why don't the following work:
Bittorrent (installed)
Quicktime (installed)
1.3 doom patch (downloaded from official doom site)
Citrix Client (installed)
Limewire wont download, it just freezes up.

I just seem to be getting a lot of software malfunctions accross the board, I'd like to make sure that a format and re-install will fix the problems before I bother going through that whole process..

Any ideas?
 
Well I've got Norton antivirus, and I've only had the computer on the internet for 2 days, so I doubt it's spyware.. Maybe there's settings in XP which are stopping these programs from loading?
 
janus said:
Well I've got Norton antivirus, and I've only had the computer on the internet for 2 days, so I doubt it's spyware.. Maybe there's settings in XP which are stopping these programs from loading?
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are you running SP2? I strongly suggest you don't plug any computer into the internet untill you have SP2 installed, all it takes is 30 seconds to get infected, I have seen systems infected during the install process, so don't think for a second that running just SP1 is an option, because you will not be safe (even with a hardware firewall). if you don't have a copy of XP that has SP2 Bundled with it, use another computer to go on the internet and have microsoft mail you a SP2 update CD, so you don't have to be on the internet to update to SP2.
 
Yeah, ok... when I first connected to the net the antivirus popped up saying there were two virus programs installed from the net which it couldn't stop, I then updated the antivirus and it deleted them.. maybe something's gone wrong there.

I'll look into SP2, thanks.
 
janus said:
Yeah, ok... when I first connected to the net the antivirus popped up saying there were two virus programs installed from the net which it couldn't stop, I then updated the antivirus and it deleted them.. maybe something's gone wrong there.

I'll look into SP2, thanks.
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you will continue to be screwed until you update to SP2. please help the internet out by upgrading so we don't have one more zombie computer on the net for someone to use to DDoS and such.
 
If I'm installing programs, can I instal multiple programs before restarting, or would it be better to restart after each program, because I know I've hit 'restart later' and continued installing before the restart..

Also, my computer takes about 5 minutes to shut down..
 
janus said:
If I'm installing programs, can I instal multiple programs before restarting, or would it be better to restart after each program, because I know I've hit 'restart later' and continued installing before the restart..

Also, my computer takes about 5 minutes to shut down..
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you clearly have a screwed up install, so I would suggest reformatting, and as for restarting, you should be safe restarting just once for all installed apps WITH THE EXCEPTION OF ALL DRIVERS which you are better off being safe and just restarting inbetween each driver install
 
OK, I'll be spending a good part of my weekend on a reinstal then, muchos gracias for the advice.

As for my install, I have a 200G Western SATA HDD. How should I work it? I've previsouly partitioned 10G for system files (c:) and then the remaining for everything else (d:). What do you think?
 
janus said:
OK, I'll be spending a good part of my weekend on a reinstal then, muchos gracias for the advice.

As for my install, I have a 200G Western SATA HDD. How should I work it? I've previsouly partitioned 10G for system files (c:) and then the remaining for everything else (d:). What do you think?
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I would partition 100G for C: and 100G for D: so that you can have all your system and game files on C: and all personal files on D: so that they arn't removed when and if you reformat.
 
Yeah, ok... when I first connected to the net the antivirus popped up saying there were two virus programs installed from the net which it couldn't stop, I then updated the antivirus and it deleted them.. maybe something's gone wrong there.

I'll look into SP2, thanks.
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Yeah, dont connect to the Net withotu some form of protection

all it takes is 30 seconds to get infected
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Yes thats what Norton is for .... granted it doesnt nail everything by itself but it'll nail the stuff-that-gets-you-in-30s :)

so don't think for a second that running just SP1 is an option, because you will not be safe (even with a hardware firewall).
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Im running SP1 and i dont ever intend to upgrade to SP2.... and im plenty fine.

If I'm installing programs, can I instal multiple programs before restarting, or would it be better to restart after each program, because I know I've hit 'restart later' and continued installing before the restart..
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You probably can but whether or not the system likes it or not depends on the programs .... why not just do things the safe way and just restart?

you will continue to be screwed until you update to SP2.
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You're assuming SP2 is the end all of problems and that it, itself isnt a bag of tricks and hassles in and of itself
 
i hate windows okay, just reformat and install FreeBSD.
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If you dont have anything useful to say, kindly refrain from the boarderline-fanboy comments ... Im not exactly a big fan of Windows myself but it doesnt help the end user to run around trying different OSes left and right
 
Praetor said:
If you dont have anything useful to say, kindly refrain from the boarderline-fanboy comments ... Im not exactly a big fan of Windows myself but it doesnt help the end user to run around trying different OSes left and right
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that isn't actualy a "fanboy" comment, since this is not only a viable solution, but a very good one too! to say that FreeBSD is out of the question is just close minded badness, maybe you should open up and consider alternatives that can ease the amount of time neede to keep a computer in shape.
 
this is not only a viable solution, but a very good one too! to say that FreeBSD is out of the question is just close minded badness, maybe you should open up and consider alternatives that can ease the amount of time neede to keep a computer in shape.
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Well, if we look at the oriiginal post
Ok, so I'm in the long process of learning about drivers, software and optimizing the running of my computer.
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Now stopping to think about that ... do you really think learning a whole new OS is a feasible -- and ideal thing to do? Perhaps you have the luxury of sitting and learning a new OS but some other people have, you know ... job, work, other stuff to deal with ... so hence my comment
Im not exactly a big fan of Windows myself but it doesnt help the end user to run around trying different OSes left and right
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LobsterLover said:
that isn't actualy a "fanboy" comment, since this is not only a viable solution, but a very good one too! to say that FreeBSD is out of the question is just close minded badness, maybe you should open up and consider alternatives that can ease the amount of time neede to keep a computer in shape.
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Explain to me how he going to play any video game that require Dirctx 9 with FreeBSD? Since he said he tryed installing doom patch am going to asume he likes to play video games once in awile. The reason you was called "fanboy" Is becuase you recommended freeBS without even trying to look at the programs he would like to use most likly. Why dont you try looking at what the user needs before recommending something that wont work on possible programs he would want.
 
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