S.M.A.R.T error, hard drive reported impending failure (raw read error rate)

johncam

johncam

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Hi all,
so, i am using my computer as normal, when i get the error in the first image, following a little googleing, i find a utility to gather more info. as you can see in the second image i am suffering a fail in the raw read error rate.

now, usually when ive had hdds go before, its all been clicking, and blue screens, never have i had such time to deal with this, which has led to a relaxed attitude on my part at this stage.

how big a risk is this, how long do i realistically have to replace this hdd before it goes kaput?

thanks everybody

(and i know backup, backup, backup, gotcha ;) )



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S.M.A.R.T. is self monitoring analysis and reporting technology and it is a technology developed by major hard disk manufacturers included in most modern hard disk drives.This technology monitors and logs many events while the disk is running.
So that analyzing the data allows you to know the drive's reliability and predict its failure.
So in your case the HDD is warning you that it will die soon and you should backup your data immediately.

Also when talking about failures you must differentiate between two types:

Predictable and non-predictable.

Predictable failures are those that don't happen suddenly.They can be caused by failure in the disk mechanics or damaged disk surface.The problem gets worse until the disk crashes.

Non-predictable are those failures caused by sudden events like a sudden power surge or an electronic failure.

S.M.A.R.T. can only help to detect predictable failures.

So how long will your HDD last?
That really depends on how lucky you are.
So backup all your data and you are safe.

NOTE: Freezing the HDD plates for 24 hours and then after that putting them in a very warm room for the next 24 hours can help to extend the life of the HDD and even make some disks to refunction again.
It worked on 5 of total 7 hard disk drives I had.
But do this ONLY if your HDD stops working properly and that you are 100% sure you have absolutely nothing to lose.




Cheers!
 
S.T.A.R.S. said:
S.M.A.R.T. is self monitoring analysis and reporting technology and it is a technology developed by major hard disk manufacturers included in most modern hard disk drives.This technology monitors and logs many events while the disk is running.
So that analyzing the data allows you to know the drive's reliability and predict its failure.
So in your case the HDD is warning you that it will die soon and you should backup your data immediately.

Also when talking about failures you must differentiate between two types:

Predictable and non-predictable.

Predictable failures are those that don't happen suddenly.They can be caused by failure in the disk mechanics or damaged disk surface.The problem gets worse until the disk crashes.

Non-predictable are those failures caused by sudden events like a sudden power surge or an electronic failure.

S.M.A.R.T. can only help to detect predictable failures.

So how long will your HDD last?
That really depends on how lucky you are.
So backup all your data and you are safe.

NOTE: Freezing the HDD plates for 24 hours and then after that putting them in a very warm room for the next 24 hours can help to extend the life of the HDD and even make some disks to refunction again.
It worked on 5 of total 7 hard disk drives I had.
But do this ONLY if your HDD stops working properly and that you are 100% sure you have absolutely nothing to lose.




Cheers!
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When you copy and paste info from another site give a link to the site. Dont act like the info was from you.

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,1879485,00.asp



S.M.A.R.T. (Self-Monitoring Analysis and Reporting Technology) is a technology, developed by major hard disk manufacturers, included in most modern hard disks. This technology monitors and logs many events while the disk is running. Analyzing the data allows us to know the drive's reliability and predict its failure.



Predictable failures are those that don't happen suddenly, they can be caused by failure in the disk mechanics or damaged disk surface. The problem gets worse, until the disk crashes.



Non-predictable are those failures caused by sudden events, like a sudden power surge or an electronic failure.

S.M.A.R.T. can only help to detect predictable failures.
 
ok, so its definitely going to go pretty soon.

i have one more question, which may be a dumb one, and one that i should probably know the answer too, but.

is there anyway that if i bought another Samsung f3 i could litrally copy everything onto the new drive, and boot from it straight away?

doesnt strike me as something you could do in windows, but perhaps, booting from a linux drive? is that even possible, or am i right back to reinstalling my os and everything again?

**edit**

just want to say thanks for the quick replys too! much appreciated! :)
 
Copying & pasting... exactly what the OP should be doing to avoid losing all his data.

However Raw read error rate reaching abnormally high can be caused by a bad sata port or cable. I have had this happen to me.
 
Telling him what SMART is, isnt telling him what he needs to do.

He needs to back up his data. Get a new drive and copy the installation over before it dies. If that doesnt work, do a clean installl and you have your back ups.
 
johncam said:
ok, so its definitely going to go pretty soon.

i have one more question, which may be a dumb one, and one that i should probably know the answer too, but.

is there anyway that if i bought another Samsung f3 i could litrally copy everything onto the new drive, and boot from it straight away?

doesnt strike me as something you could do in windows, but perhaps, booting from a linux drive? is that even possible, or am i right back to reinstalling my os and everything again?

**edit**

just want to say thanks for the quick replys too! much appreciated! :)
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Don't wait or hesitate.Copy the entire HDD to a new HDD IMMEDIATELY!
If you wait,it's gonna be too late and trust me you don't want that to happen to you.
I already told you what S.M.A.R.T. is so you decide what you want to do and how long you will wait.

And yes it is possible to make a new HDD bootable and make it work just like the old one without reinstalling anything using Linux and Windows disks.
I have pictures (taken with my cellphone) on how to do that.Approximately 200 of them.They are valid for XP,but the procedure is completely the same for all Windows also.

Anyway you first copy the ENTIRE drive to a new one and then let me know wether you want pictures or not.
You can copy the entire drive to a new one using simple Linux Ubuntu CD-ROM disk.




Cheers!
 
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