stable before, not anymore. hlp plz

ada///M

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well right when I thought I was figuring this stuff out something like this happens to smack me back to reality.

I've been running my Q6600 at 3375Mhz for about a month and for whatever reason I up and decided to try and go higher. Temps were great, under 55c all the way up to 3528Mhz. At this point the Vcore was up around 1.38 at startup down to around 1.32 running prime95. This ran stable for about 30-35 minutes so naturally I went another step, 2Mhz bump with the x9 multiplier. Crashed after 15 minutes of prime, went up a tick with the vcore, same thing, another tick vcore, another crash. Okay so I figured that was my wall and went back to 3528 with the previous vcore that was stable. Ran prime and this crashed only about 15 minutes in. Okay... so I figured maybe it just needs another bump in Vcore but no help.

So I started slowly backtracking (I kept good notes off all my progress) through other clocks that were stable but they were all crashing, all at the exact same step in prime, the 2nd test of the 2nd section of the mixxed torture test. So I figured I'd play it safe to check things out and go back to my settings that I had run for a month or so, that I had previously primed for 2 hours without issues, and same thing, it crashes during that test about 20 minutes into prime95.


What did I do? I deleted and re-downloaded prime95. I really don't know where to start.. what could I have done? I thought the vcore was getting a little high but I swear I never saw over 56C on any of the cores. Ram never got over 394 bus speed. Computer still runs fine and I even fired up crysis and played a little and the fps look the same as they were before. Why does prime keep killing it though?

Thanks in advance for any help,
-adam

edit: I thought maybe the RAM was at fault so I snapped a pic of the settings in BIOS. I was kind of unsure of the highlighted setting so let me know if that may be the case. I also have a picture of what CPU-Z is displaying for the first screen. It's DDR2 6400 800Mhz just to avoid any confusion.

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you might be hitting yout TJmax. try default settgins and start over. also remember prime 95 is testing ram and cpu. so if cpu is stable and ram isnt itll crash.

i ran prime for 3 hrs today with new hs and is toped at 34oC. im Oc from 2.3 to 2.5

vcore is 1.275
NB voltage is 1.2
cpu:nb 1.75
so somewhere you have a voltage and or timings off .
 
vcore is 1.275
NB voltage is 1.2
cpu:nb 1.75
so somewhere you have a voltage and or timings off .

He has an Intel CPU, so his settings won't be the same as yours.

I'd start from Stock, see if that's stable then work your way back up. Also, try resetting the CMOS.
 
added one step to my northbridge voltages today, no other changes, and prime has been running for an hour now at 3375 :) Feels good to be back where I was a month ago. I'll let it run and see if something else doesn't show up...
 
I have it set at 1.180V in BIOS but I don't see it on HWmonitor or CPU-Z to check if that's actually what it's gettin. I see that you guys are running a bit higher in the Q6600 thread, maybe that's my problem? I swear it primed for 30 minutes (before I stopped it, never crashed) at 3555Mhz with the northbridge set at auto. I'm really in over my head on that one.

New question though; Is it normal for Prime to only use about 2.4GB of my 4 during a torture test? I've read that there's maybe a setting I missed in BIOS but I went back and didn't see it...
 
usually unless your hitting 1800mhz or so, your FSB voltage should be fine on auto...

i dont personally have a quad core, but 1.2v at 3.5ghz seems pretty low to me.
 
I didn't read all responses so someone may have said this. When doing a lot of OCing sometimes your bios will tell you something is set when in fact it isn't. =\ easy check and fix is just to write down all your settings, revert back to defaults, boot, and then re-enter your settings. May help you may not, good luck!

I have it set at 1.180V in BIOS but I don't see it on HWmonitor or CPU-Z to check if that's actually what it's gettin. I see that you guys are running a bit higher in the Q6600 thread, maybe that's my problem? I swear it primed for 30 minutes (before I stopped it, never crashed) at 3555Mhz with the northbridge set at auto. I'm really in over my head on that one.

New question though; Is it normal for Prime to only use about 2.4GB of my 4 during a torture test? I've read that there's maybe a setting I missed in BIOS but I went back and didn't see it...

1.18 to MCH? try 1.3-1.35, not dangerous. And your ram should be set at a 1:1 (2.0 multi) when OCing CPU to avoid confusion on what is causing errors. If you think your ram may not be good run memtest86+.
 
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Yeah I may have to give it a go again one of these days. I'm back at 3375Mhz and the MCH is still set to 1.18V. I wonder if this is just too low and it's resorting to auto settings? I tried 1.24 MCH at 3402 and it crashed almost immediately into prime so I just quit. I should run a memtest though. My computer shows 4 GB detected but just using task manager I don't think I've ever seen it using even 3 GB, even during prime... If I remove 2 of the sticks it will load the ram completely during prime.

Thanks for the help guys!
 
I jumped the MCH up to 1.3V today and it handled it great! Passed a memtest both before and after so I tried to clock up the processor a little again today with a lot of success. I'm at just under 1.39V vcore on cpuz at idle, down to around 1.33V running prime. Does this seem like a lot of variance for the vcore? I stopped at 394x9, 3546Mhz. This is where I stopped because I saw 60*C on 2 of the cores about 40 minutes into prime.

Another question now; I tried searching online to see what TWPIN0 and TWPIN1 represent in Hardware Monitor and I got different answers. If TWPIN1 is the processor temps and I read that they are more accurate than the individual core temps, then my temps are actually really low(which they probably should be with a sunbeam contact cooler w/ 120mm fan blowing full speed)... I'd have to check them again under load but I think I remember them being 7-10*C colder than the hottest cores.

I was going to shoot for the even 3600 but I think I may leave it where it is for a couple weeks and monitor the temps to make sure everything checks out. Ram is still at 4-4-4-12. Didn't touch the MCH, Ram Voltage, or timings from 3375 to 3546... sound plausible?

thank you once again in advance!
-adam
 
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