System same price as 2 years ago

lincsman

lincsman

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Hi there, I did a system configuration for the system I bought 2 years ago, which is what I have now except the I bought a GTX 650 ti back then. I recently bought a GTX 770, but I checked the price of my current system with the gtx 650 ti and it is roughly the same price as what I paid for it 2 years ago. I find this odd.
 
Few reasons.

AMD chips have been pretty stable in price over the past couple years. I got my 8320 for I believe 160 in September of 2013. They run about 140 now.

GPU's are so quickly replaced that a lot of times you'll see the previous line get dropped in price a bunch when the new ones launch. Then once the supply dwindles and people still want the older cards for whatever reason the price will start to climb again.

PSU, cases, and hard drives are pretty stable in price over the space of a couple years.

SSD prices have dropped a lot.

RAM prices have been everywhere and cost just as much now, if not more, than they did when I first built this machine (first iteration of it) in Sept 2011. I got 4GB for 30-35 bucks IIRC and it's still about the same now.

Motherboard prices also have been pretty stable, although probably declining slightly.

TL;DR AMD product progression sucks and their prices haven't changed much since they haven't released anything new in a while.
 
Darren said:
FTL;DR AMD product progression sucks and their prices haven't changed much since they haven't released anything new in a while.
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Yeah I think that's the bottom line. The current line of FX processors have been on the market since 2012 with little or no change!
 
Darren said:
So get AMD systems because they hold their value..? Right guys?!?







....guys?
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:P

The Intel ones haven't changed too much either. Even used 2600Ks and crap like that are pretty gouged on the used market too. On the whole the PC side hasn't really advanced a gigantic amount lately unless you want to drop $1k on the 8 core Haswell-E ;)
 
That's what I've been noticing as well. Quad core i5's were the goto recommendation in 2011 when i joined up here and they still are. Obviously a newer generation but in terms of clock speed and core count not much has changed.
 
They're probably matching the consoles to a point. Probably by the time the ps5 comes out, along with the comparative xbox system, which probably won't be for a number of years, the PC specs will jump too.
 
lincsman said:
They're probably matching the consoles to a point. Probably by the time the ps5 comes out, along with the comparative xbox system, which probably won't be for a number of years, the PC specs will jump too.
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No AMD just needs to get their stuff together. Intel is completely bending them over. I love my AMD chip and it performs great for my uses but they're just not pushing the envelope. Which is critical in that business.
 
beers said:
:P

The Intel ones haven't changed too much either. Even used 2600Ks and crap like that are pretty gouged on the used market too. On the whole the PC side hasn't really advanced a gigantic amount lately unless you want to drop $1k on the 8 core Haswell-E ;)
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If you're talking about CPUs and maybe RAM to a degree (though you could say that more people have faster DDR3 now than in 2011 but really you won't notice much difference) that is true but if you're talking about GPUs and SSDs then I think there have been big improvements made since 2011 especially in terms of price:performance with GPUs and £/GB with SSDs!
 
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Spirits got it... + AMD really does need to drop prices on older CPU's a bit more then they currently do.. Intel CPU's from 5 years ago can stomp around on the FX-4___ series for literally the same price..
 
C4C said:
Spirits got it... + AMD really does need to drop prices on older CPU's a bit more then they currently do.. Intel CPU's from 5 years ago can stomp around on the FX-4___ series for literally the same price..
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True. My i5 2500K still performs exceptionally well and 3 years on I don't feel the need to replace it for a while yet I don't think. But I don't think you can buy the older Socket 1155 CPUs brand new anymore and if you can, good luck trying to find a Socket 1155 board brand new.

Before I had my 2500K I had a first generation i5 760. Owned it from 2010-2012. In early 2012 I bricked my motherboard by trying to update the BIOS and I had to get a new one. Those first generation chips ran on Socket 1156 and I had the devil's own job finding an 1156 board new with the features I wanted and 1156 wasn't really that old when that happened (a couple of years old, but granted it was kind of a 'failed platform' since only one generation used it). Luckily I found a very good deal for a used P7P55D-E on eBay which I was happy with until I upgraded to 1155. So I think if you still wanted to buy 1155 you'd need to look second hand.

But those who bought an FX-8320 AM3+ setup when the platform was new in 2012 will be saying the same thing as I'm saying about my 2500K because there is nothing that has replaced the 8320 at all really. Yes, the 3570K, the 4670K and the 4690K are faster than my 2500K on paper, but they didn't and still don't justify a £160+ upgrade especially when you account for new motherboards too for the 4670K and the 4690K, and I'd want a good £150 board too. I think I learned my lesson abut that in a way when I went from my 760 to a 2500K, but I upgraded for a variety of other reasons besides CPU performance so it was a slightly different scenario.
 
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My 8320 is still a plenty capable chip and I'm happy with it and don't regret the purchase at all. However nowadays I wouldn't really suggest it as doing so is locking you to an already REALLY dated socket. I started with a Phenom II 955 in this board which is a quad at 3.2GHz. Now running an Octa at 4.1GHz. Bit of an improvement. :D
 
Thats why i bought a Z97 board with my dual core, which is a beast by the way at 4.5 Ghz. For broadwell, and the i5 that comes with that generation
 
Darren said:
My 8320 is still a plenty capable chip and I'm happy with it and don't regret the purchase at all. However nowadays I wouldn't really suggest it as doing so is locking you to an already REALLY dated socket. I started with a Phenom II 955 in this board which is a quad at 3.2GHz. Now running an Octa at 4.1GHz. Bit of an improvement. :D
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True, AM3+ is 4 years old now.

I can remember when the original FX line came out in 2011 a lot of people were saying that the FX CPUs were actually a downgrade from their older AM3 chips in terms of performance!
 
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