the advantages of bulldozer.
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claptonman
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Their socket will be updated, and the whole architech is completely different. So mostly, it will be faster/more efficient. We just have to wait to see how good they are when they're released.
jonnyp11
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turbos to over 4ghz when it turns off the other 6 cores on the octuples, which is one of the other bnefits, but it is similar to sandy bridge in consept, with the addition of some key cpu resources, as in like the i7 will have say 5 parts, and the phenom will have the same, but the new bulldozers will have 2 of the 3rd part and might have 2 of another, giving it more overall power, i believe it was said to be 1.3x performance with sandy bridge's threading, but the threading and resources of the bulldozer was considered to be like 1.6x a normal core. and also in some apps the resorces can act as a quad core or something so a 4 threaded app will get the performance boosts.
Its really a completely new architecture. First of its kind as far as I know. Unsing a module as AMD calls it, instead of a standard single core.
Good read.
http://www.realworldtech.com/page.cfm?ArticleID=RWT082610181333
Who said advantages? From what I see, he said changes. If you dont know what changes have been made, why are you even posting. And they are pretty well known.
Its premature to ask, what! So since Sandybridge-e and Ivybridge hasnt been released, I guess we should not talk or discuss anything about them either.
jonnyp11
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quad core starts at 190 i believe, the 2500k is what is 220.
Yeah, I've heard the 4 core will be around 190/200 bucks. The 6 core suppost to compete against the 2500k in price, suppost to be around 220/240 bucks
Okedokey
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Did you even read the title of the thread? lol. "the advantages of bulldozer"
which is why i replied with
You're right, I just wanted to know the known advantages so far,
and now This thread must go back in the womb,and then be born again whenever bulldozer is released.
-Knunez
And again the OP recognises this so i don't see why you are even posting what you are here...
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Did you even read the title of the thread? lol. "the advantages of bulldozer"
which is why i replied with
And again the OP recognises this so i don't see why you are even posting what you are here...
Still the questions was (What changes)
Everybody knows what changes (even if you want to use the word advantages) have been made to the architecture. You cant tell me you have no idea of the differences between the Phenom II and Zambezi. And as far as steppings. The B0 was unstable and B1 didnt clock like they wanted it to. They suppost to have a B2 and C0 stepping at release.
And because it hasnt been released, saying this thread is a bit premature is ridiculous. Its no more premature then talking about the changes of Sandybridge-E or Ivybridge.
2048Megabytes
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The new Socket AM3+ looks promising when compared to Thuban architecture. I cannot wait to see the numbers on processing power.
Okedokey
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Do you understand context? The context of this thread, as the OP agreed, was what changes are expected to be advantageous in BD. The chip hasn't been released, and as such, its a premature question, because we don't know how it will perform. As the OP agreed. Thats the point.
An advantage is condition or circumstance that puts one in a favorable or superior position. Thats a relative perspective. We cannot determine advantage if we have not seen any testing or comparison. We can hypothesis about expected results, but as i said that would be premature. The chip may come out and suck balls or it may come out and be great. I'm hoping for the later, but at the moment, as Strangle said, its a big guess. Plenty of innovative architecture changes (e.g. Fermi) were crap, so guessing at what will be advantageous now for BD is too early.
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Okedokey
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How do we know that? Because AMD have said so. Ive read that it would even boot with any overclock what so ever. That is a broken product. Also, when it does come out (finally) I hope it goes well, but it will be competing thereabouts with Ivy Bridge. However its true, it would be very remarkable if it wasn't better than the previous architecture, but advantages specifically, noone can say.
ScottALot
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A hardware-based version of HyperThreading is the selling point of Bulldozer. The modules themselves consist of two cores with shared cache. So, if I understand it correctly, one module would get roughly the same raw performance numbers as a dual-core CPU, but software would be designed so the one module would take the role of one regular core. This is fact-based speculation, and most of these facts are based off of what AMD would consider ideal.
2048Megabytes
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If a processor does not overclock it does not mean the product is broken. Manufacturers clock their processors at a certain clock speed for a reason. If I were to constantly run my car engine at redline rotations per minute and then damage the engine the fault would be my own.
Granted most present desktop processors overclock well with proper cooling, but if they do not overclock it doesn't mean they are broken.
Granted most present desktop processors overclock well with proper cooling, but if they do not overclock it doesn't mean they are broken.