Upgrading CPU, any problems?

Rlad78 said:
Most of the cable mess are the black power cables, half of which I don't use but can't get rid of since they're all attached to each other.

I'm gonna buy some thermal paste as soon as possible, but the CPU I'm thinking of buying has thermal paste included.

So I need this question answered: Will the Intel Celeron E3300 Wolfdale 2.5GHz be an substantial improvement from my current Intel Celeron E1200 1.6GHz?

Edit: I don't know how, but some how the graphics card temp is 56 C since an hour ago. Don't know what I did when I was pulling off the cpu fan, but I guess it worked...
Edit2: Nope, back up to 77 C. Will cutting a hole in the case near the graphics card really reduce the heat? I don't really know what else would.
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Just try to route the cables as best as you can. Get some zip ties and flexible nylon convoluted tubing to pull some of those wire bundles together. At the very least, just try and get them semi-organized.

I wouldnt use the paste they give you. I'd go with arctic silver 5, I use it on all the CPU's I pull off. It did wonders on my old xbox over the stock junk that came with it.

The 3300 would be an improvement, but depending on what you're doing, you may not notice much difference. If all you are doing is surfin, then I wouldn't even bother upgrading. Just cleaning that thing out should get you more power, especially since that CPU is running so hot. Getting it cooled off will REALLY help.

That case looks awful, like an early 90's stock case. If it were me, I would get a Antec 60 or 80mm case fan. And I would mount it in the case panel over the video card, blowing inward.

At the very least it should help that card to cool and to get you a more positive case pressure. Thus preventing dust from entering through every gap in that case.

Just my thoughts on it.
 
gamblingman said:
Just try to route the cables as best as you can. Get some zip ties and flexible nylon convoluted tubing to pull some of those wire bundles together. At the very least, just try and get them semi-organized.

I wouldnt use the paste they give you. I'd go with arctic silver 5, I use it on all the CPU's I pull off. It did wonders on my old xbox over the stock junk that came with it.

The 3300 would be an improvement, but depending on what you're doing, you may not notice much difference. If all you are doing is surfin, then I wouldn't even bother upgrading. Just cleaning that thing out should get you more power, especially since that CPU is running so hot. Getting it cooled off will REALLY help.

That case looks awful, like an early 90's stock case. If it were me, I would get a Antec 60 or 80mm case fan. And I would mount it in the case panel over the video card, blowing inward.

At the very least it should help that card to cool and to get you a more positive case pressure. Thus preventing dust from entering through every gap in that case.

Just my thoughts on it.
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I bundled the wires as well as I could. Don't have time to take a pic.

I'm gonna buy the cpu, since I'm gonna be playing some games too.

The case and the fan I can buy later if I really need it.

And is the Dynex Thermal Compound good? It's at my Best Buy and that would be a lot easier than ordering it offline.
 
Hi,
Aside from the mechanical challenge of choosing a CPU that will work and removing the heatsink without destroying the motherboard, a CPU upgrade can be a real gainer. Don't forget to put some fresh thermal grease on the new CPU, which you should obtain from whoever sells it to you. I wouldn't spend more than $100 on an upgrade CPU under any circumstances; you can probably get into a new motherboard, CPU and RAM for that.

Thanks
 
maki said:
Hi,
Aside from the mechanical challenge of choosing a CPU that will work and removing the heatsink without destroying the motherboard, a CPU upgrade can be a real gainer. Don't forget to put some fresh thermal grease on the new CPU, which you should obtain from whoever sells it to you. I wouldn't spend more than $100 on an upgrade CPU under any circumstances; you can probably get into a new motherboard, CPU and RAM for that.

Thanks
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Thank you.

So, here is the last question I have until I buy this thing.

Did I have to put a thermal compound on my graphics card too? Because I saw somewhere someone putting a thermal compound on theirs and I would really need it since my gfx card is at a constant 76 C.
 
no the card comes with its own manufacturers heatsink which has thermal paste on it from the factory. the only time you would need to do that is if you bought an aftermarket heatsink/cooler for it.
 
Rlad78 said:
Thank you.

So, here is the last question I have until I buy this thing.

Did I have to put a thermal compound on my graphics card too? Because I saw somewhere someone putting a thermal compound on theirs and I would really need it since my gfx card is at a constant 76 C.
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Not suggest unless the manufacture warranty expired.
 
just pull that card out and blow/vaccuum the crud out of its heat sink (and the rest of the computer). Then check your temps and let us know.
 
So I got back home, readjusted the wires, put the side of the case back on, stood it up, and now the CPU temp dropped from an idle 74 C to an idle 66 C! Can't wait to go out and buy some thermal compound.
 
Rlad78 said:
So I got back home, readjusted the wires, put the side of the case back on, stood it up, and now the CPU temp dropped from an idle 74 C to an idle 66 C! Can't wait to go out and buy some thermal compound.
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yeah the paste will bring that down WAY more.
 
Here is how I apply thermal paste:

Take thermal paste, carefully put a dab the size of a grain of rice in the center of the processor. Gently place the heat sink over it and lock it into place very carefully. The pressure from it being locked will spread the thermal paste evenly over the core of the central processing units heat shield.

Let it cure for a while and check temperatures periodically. It may take a week before the thermal paste brings CPU temperatures down a few degrees.
 
2048Megabytes said:
Here is how I apply thermal paste:

Take thermal paste, carefully put a dab the size of a grain of rice in the center of the processor. Gently place the heat sink over it and lock it into place very carefully. The pressure from it being locked will spread the thermal paste evenly over the core of the central processing units heat shield.

Let it cure for a while and check temperatures periodically. It may take a week before the thermal paste brings CPU temperatures down a few degrees.
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you can even take something with a very flat edge like a credit card and spread it out. either should do the trick.
 
joh06937 said:
you can even take something with a very flat edge like a credit card and spread it out. either should do the trick.
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Used this trick. Made a small glazing of thermal compound.

Used the grain of rice size. Spread it with a business card.

One thing I have noticed is that my fan/heatsink will not go all the way in. Only 3/4 pins will actually lock on to the hole. Would this affect it if I have it lying down right now?

Edit: About the temp. While the temp will go down to about 60 C after staying idle for about 5min, it quickly rises to 75 C, just by using Google Chrome.
 
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Rlad78 said:
Used this trick. Made a small glazing of thermal compound.

Used the grain of rice size. Spread it with a business card.

One thing I have noticed is that my fan/heatsink will not go all the way in. Only 3/4 pins will actually lock on to the hole. Would this affect it if I have it lying down right now?

Edit: About the temp. While the temp will go down to about 60 C after staying idle for about 5min, it quickly rises to 75 C, just by using Google Chrome.
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you shouldn't get a spike like that even with a bad heatsink. it could be the contact like you were saying. you could make sure there isn't anything obstructing the contact and attempt to re-seat it.
 
joh06937 said:
you shouldn't get a spike like that even with a bad heatsink. it could be the contact like you were saying. you could make sure there isn't anything obstructing the contact and attempt to re-seat it.
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It seems like it's the pin itself. I think it's broken.

Guess I'll have to wait for the new fan to arrive with the E3300.

Edit: Is this what it's supposed to look like in the end? Because I spread it evenly over the whole CPU

http://www.techpowerup.com/articles/134/images/cpu3.jpg
 
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after you push the heatsink down and screw it in, the paste should go all the way to the outer edges (without spilling over the edge). is that post heatsink pressure?
 
joh06937 said:
after you push the heatsink down and screw it in, the paste should go all the way to the outer edges (without spilling over the edge). is that post heatsink pressure?
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I spread it out with a business before I put it on the heatsink. It was pretty much an equal glazing over the top of the cpu. Should I remove it, then put a dab on there and let the heatsink press it down?

Edit: I finally got the 4th pin down. No change. In fact, it might have made it worse.

Major heat spikes still exist, going from 57 to 72. Did I add to much Thermal Compound?

God, I didn't think I'd have this much of a problem getting a new CPU...
 
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Rlad78 said:
I spread it out with a business before I put it on the heatsink. It was pretty much an equal glazing over the top of the cpu. Should I remove it, then put a dab on there and let the heatsink press it down?

Edit: I finally got the 4th pin down. No change. In fact, it might have made it worse.

Major heat spikes still exist, going from 57 to 72. Did I add to much Thermal Compound?

God, I didn't think I'd have this much of a problem getting a new CPU...
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Bump. Still need advice so I don't screw up my new CPU when it gets here. Should I just put the thermal compound dab on my CPU and let the heatsink even it out like in this pic?

http://www.techpowerup.com/articles/134/images/cpu3.jpg

Because I think spreading it out has put too much thermal compound on my CPU, considering the major heat spikes.
 
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