Upgrading to Vista need some help

Jack Bauer

Jack Bauer

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I am going to be upgrading to Vista Home Premium on my desktop in my sig. Will it run Vista pretty good does Vista need DX 10 graphics for anything right now or will it run fully functional on DX 9. What is the difference between Vista Home Premium and Vista Ultimate?

Also how would Home Premium run on a Dell Inspiron B130 with these specs
Intel Pentium M 1.7 Ghz
512 MB of ram
40 GB HD
Integrated Graphics

I of course would be upgrading the ram on here to at least 1 Gig probably more if I do get it for my laptop. But cause of the integrated graphics will it run the Vista Aero thing and will it run it with everything turned on if I do upgrade to it?

EDIT: Here is the link to what I would be buying
http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?c=us&l=en&s=dhs&cs=19&sku=A0760941
 
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First of all why would you pay $159.95 for an upgrade disk when you can get the "full version" of Vista Home Premium for only $119.99? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116202 It's called OEM for system builders!

Presently Vista is the "second OS" here not primary for the obvious reasons of it being a new version of Windows that presently does see a lack of support with the current drivers released so far. With only 512mb of ram it will also run sssssslowwww on your current system there. Vista already includes DX10 and so far has been running DX9c without problems. But onboard video "stinks" in plain terms if you plan on gaming and/or multimedia.
 
PC eye said:
First of all why would you pay $159.95 for an upgrade disk when you can get the "full version" of Vista Home Premium for only $119.99? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116202 It's called OEM for system builders!

Presently Vista is the "second OS" here not primary for the obvious reasons of it being a new version of Windows that presently does see a lack of support with the current drivers released so far. With only 512mb of ram it will also run sssssslowwww on your current system there. Vista already includes DX10 and so far has been running DX9c without problems. But onboard video "stinks" in plain terms if you plan on gaming and/or multimedia.
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But when I get a new computer would I be able to install the OEM copy of vista on it or would I have to buy a new version? Also would vista run pretty good on my system in my sig?

As for my laptop that is what has onboard would it run vista home premium and vista aero or not?
 
The OEM for the Ultimate version was seen for $189.99 at newegg while there. It does offer some additional features over the Home Premium version for the extra price tag. The best way to decide on whcih version is to look over the Vista comparison chart provided by Microsoft at http://www.microsoft.com/windows/products/windowsvista/editions/choose.mspx

As you will see there the Ultimate edition offers 4 additional features over the HP edition with,
1)
Protect against hardware failure
with Windows Complete PC Backup and Restore

2)
Windows Fax and Scan
Easily send and receive faxes or scan documents and images with Windows Fax and Scan

3)
Easier remote access for your business
Get to the resources and applications you need with Remote Desktop Connection

4)
Better protect your data
against loss with Windows BitLocker Drive Encryption

The Business version offers even less with the Home Basic being probably best described as a stripped down to not much over shell version there that just happens to have WMP and IE 7.
 
I tried the Ultimate version when RC1 had the option included there for the five different versions. Unfortunately when going to get a copy when first released while attending a pc show they were sold out. So I ended up with the HP version instead. But the four extras can wait until they have the "bugs" worked out over a period of time and XP is no longer ??? :confused:

That will be some time to come. While the theme lovers are after everything Vista the gamers have had nothing but complaints in many ways. Most never moved from one version to the next to know that "it takes time" before working driver updates become available. Look at what happened with Windows ME. :eek: "not again!"
 
PC eye said:
I tried the Ultimate version when RC1 had the option included there for the five different versions. Unfortunately when going to get a copy when first released while attending a pc show they were sold out. So I ended up with the HP version instead. But the four extras can wait until they have the "bugs" worked out over a period of time and XP is no longer ??? :confused:

That will be some time to come. While the theme lovers are after everything Vista the gamers have had nothing but complaints in many ways. Most never moved from one version to the next to know that "it takes time" before working driver updates become available. Look at what happened with Windows ME. :eek: "not again!"
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Well how about this I get the Home Premium retail and then I dual boot with XP Pro so in case somethings not compatible I wont have to worry about it until it is fixed.
 
Go with the OEM to save on cost there. The main difference besides the carton and large paperback book is "price". The OEM is simply the dvd shipped in a plain cardboard sleeve covering a plastic case. A small booklet is included along with as well as the MS certification sticker with the product key. It's still a full install version.

Gee? did someone say something about dual booting? If you don't want any changes made on the XP drive by the looks of your sig you would need to add a second one in and unplug the current primary. Otherwise once Vista goes onto a second partition(unless you run into what I did on a second HD) and takes over the booting. You will see the option to load Vista or "previous version of Windows" on the first splash acreen there.

How do you change the "previous version of..." to "Windows Pro or Professional"? Two programs tried here make it easy to assign which one will be default and even rename what is seen on the boot options. VistaBootPRO and EasyBCD. But if you remove XP from the boot loader by the recovery console method forget about adding it back in later. That also seems to go for adding other Windows or OSs onto the then present menu.

When XP Pro was installed on a sata here with the two ide drive(XP Home, Vista HP) unplugged that couldn't be added in despite VistaBootPRO, EasyBCD, or even a manual edit of the new boot manager. When the Home version was removed and the fixboot, fixmbr commands were used those three failed to see it added back on. By that time Vista saw it's second installation with the partition intact. OOPS! The third finally saw Home and Pro added along with Vista after reformatting the second drive.
 
PC eye said:
Go with the OEM to save on cost there. The main difference besides the carton and large paperback book is "price". The OEM is simply the dvd shipped in a plain cardboard sleeve covering a plastic case. A small booklet is included along with as well as the MS certification sticker with the product key. It's still a full install version.

Gee? did someone say something about dual booting? If you don't want any changes made on the XP drive by the looks of your sig you would need to add a second one in and unplug the current primary. Otherwise once Vista goes onto a second partition(unless you run into what I did on a second HD) and takes over the booting. You will see the option to load Vista or "previous version of Windows" on the first splash acreen there.

How do you change the "previous version of..." to "Windows Pro or Professional"? Two programs tried here make it easy to assign which one will be default and even rename what is seen on the boot options. VistaBootPRO and EasyBCD. But if you remove XP from the boot loader by the recovery console method forget about adding it back in later. That also seems to go for adding other Windows or OSs onto the then present menu.

When XP Pro was installed on a sata here with the two ide drive(XP Home, Vista HP) unplugged that couldn't be added in despite VistaBootPRO, EasyBCD, or even a manual edit of the new boot manager. When the Home version was removed and the fixboot, fixmbr commands were used those three failed to see it added back on. By that time Vista saw it's second installation with the partition intact. OOPS! The third finally saw Home and Pro added along with Vista after reformatting the second drive.
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What about the difference of OEM is that you can only install it on one system and then you need to buy a new copy. With retail cant you install it on one computer then when you get a new one take the os off of the old one and then install it on the new one.
 
The OEM type recovery disk included with prebuilt systems is usually locked there due to the serial number of system integrated with the product key. Often those are special ordered from MS. You may even see the HP, Dell, or other logo on the Windows disk itself there. Esentially all Winodws disks starting with XP are intended for one machine.

That's where product activation came in. Microsoft allowed for so many hardware changes over a period of time anticipating the occasional newer faster cpu, new video card, etc. that way. The OEM is simply packaged for those who sell custom builds over buying it on the shelf at a retail outlet or seeing the typical locked in system recovery disk that comes along with prebuilt systems with the OS already installed.
 
Well i just bought the Windows Vista Home Premium 32 bit OEM version for $119.99 on newegg :D should be here by Wednesday or Thursday.
 
I am currently running the same version here while multibooting with the two 32bit versions of XP. Those will soon see company again with Mandriva and Solaris 10. Despite the initial problems with Creative's incomplete Vista drivers the EAX effects still work even in the older games. And I can set XP as the default OS at any time with a 3rd party tool known as EasyBCD. You can even rename "previous versions of Windows" to "Windows XP". :D But you can't add additional OSs like the so-called claims. :rolleyes:

Sound and not being able to send links in IE 7 have been the only "bugs" found here so far. Some apps will need newer versions as expected however. Other then that the OS has been stable with the 2gb in use here. You just have to learn how to get around with the new themes and other features added or removed between Windows and IE 7.
 
PC eye said:
I am currently running the same version here while multibooting with the two 32bit versions of XP. Those will soon see company again with Mandriva and Solaris 10. Despite the initial problems with Creative's incomplete Vista drivers the EAX effects still work even in the older games. And I can set XP as the default OS at any time with a 3rd party tool known as EasyBCD. You can even rename "previous versions of Windows" to "Windows XP". :D But you can't add additional OSs like the so-called claims. :rolleyes:

Sound and not being able to send links in IE 7 have been the only "bugs" found here so far. Some apps will need newer versions as expected however. Other then that the OS has been stable with the 2gb in use here. You just have to learn how to get around with the new themes and other features added or removed between Windows and IE 7.
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Ok thanks. I tried out the Home Premium version on a laptop at officemax and it doesn't look that hard to get used to.
 
You can always change most but not all things back to the "Classic" look until you get used to moving around with the new styles. This includes trying to get accustomed to the way you now browse drives and folder in Windows Explorer. At least there the Classic offers a single click link in the left column unlike the double click "everything" Vista style. If you have a lot of older desktop apps not just games expect some may not even install let alone run on the new version there. This is one reason I dual OSed the drives here.
 
PC eye said:
You can always change most but not all things back to the "Classic" look until you get used to moving around with the new styles. This includes trying to get accustomed to the way you now browse drives and folder in Windows Explorer. At least there the Classic offers a single click link in the left column unlike the double click "everything" Vista style. If you have a lot of older desktop apps not just games expect some may not even install let alone run on the new version there. This is one reason I dual OSed the drives here.
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I don't have that many older programs but if something doesn't work on my desktop with Vista then I will just put the programs on my laptop and that should work. And I get used to things really fast so I should have no problem finding my way around vista I actually liked the layout more on there than on XP except for the annoying security popups but I will end up turning those off.
 
That's either the Windows firewall being enabled at the store or the new User Account Control feature that can drive you batty after clicking allow to even run anything you already went through the installation process for. You go into Control Panel>User Accounts to find and uncheck that annoyance.

The problem here is with the recent capture/tuner card added for captruing video from vhs security footage onto mpeg II format. The version of PowerDVD on the Vista compatibility list failed too? Some list there alright. :P
 
PC eye said:
That's either the Windows firewall being enabled at the store or the new User Account Control feature that can drive you batty after clicking allow to even run anything you already went through the installation process for. You go into Control Panel>User Accounts to find and uncheck that annoyance.

The problem here is with the recent capture/tuner card added for captruing video from vhs security footage onto mpeg II format. The version of PowerDVD on the Vista compatibility list failed too? Some list there alright. :P
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So PowerDVD doesn't work in Vista? I hope it does work cause I use that all the time to watch movies.
 
PowerDVD 6.0 wouldn't work here. Yet that was included on the Vista compatibility lists along with the 7.0 version. Figure that one out. Roxio's Easy Media Creator 8 that I use for data dvds made it but not PowerDVD, PowerDirector used for video capturing, and PowerProducer did see some results until Vista was installed for the third time due to the multiboot mess VistaBootPRO and EasyBCD made trying to add the XP Pro sata installation.

When contacting Cyberlink's support staff the response indicated that their newer 8.0 for PowerDVD, 6.0 for the other two would be backward compatible to XP. The problem here is that all three came bundled with the tv tuner/video capture card in december. :mad: ggrrrr...! The older card used suddenly gave out one day over a month before Vista came out now requiring keeping XP alive for the time being. But I'm not in any rush. Originally I was after the Ultimate which just happened to be sold out fast! :(
 
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