Very fishy...

fastdude

fastdude

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One day, I woke up and found the old Desktop Computer riddled with this pesky worm-virus-thingie (avast said it was there, but couldn't get rid of it), I booted in Safe mode with networking and downloaded all the antivirus programs I could think of... MSSC, Norton, bitdefender, malwarebytes, McAfee, (alot were trials) with no avail :( then, I tried Kapersky. I'm not a big fan of Paid-for antivirus software, so I downloaded the 30 day trial, it found the Virus, moved to virus chest, then deleted! At first I was amazed that Kapersky did it...
To be cynical about it... (I'm a very cynical person) it makes you wonder whether companies create virus's that can only be killed by their own software :eek: Anyone else experienced this phenomenon with other AV's?
 
Yeah I have, I have found Trend Micro can not even detect a virus but then malwarebytes can remove it... or sometimes trend cant remove it but malwarebytes can, was it a boot time virus? that may of been the deal.
 
Gentlemen,

I agree with you. I am very suspicious about a/v software. Please check out my post , "Is anti virus software a virus?" In some cases, it may well be. There is something fishy here.

Ken
 
Ive tried them all and came to the conclusion that none will detect them all. i settled on one for the last two years. Kaspersky internet security. Yes i do also post here in the security section just to be safe and run a hi jack log, malaware bytes and ccleaner. try to stay on top the best i can.

On the other hand i use a netbook for bills, transfers and credit cards. i do not search at google with the netbook. visit here, sit outside and surf but do not go on a hunt like google. that seems to be where i get into trouble. clicking on a site. Then its to late.

as far as virus go. not all are malicious. those are the ones to worry about. no, i do not have the answer. i do look up the virus to find what it is. i just try to avoid them. on the other hand i have been to many sites i consider safe. it detects cookies and such. gotta have them and sites with frequent visits i think. turning off cookies, script controls won't happen either. then it becomes very inconvenient everytime ya visit a site you often visit. thats been my experience.
 
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yeah, true. Mostly Avast has been good, but it got me hell worried when It went through it's Primary (Move to chest), secondary (Kill) and Tertiary (Annihilate) stages without destroying that damn Thing.... :L
 
It's all about the definitions and what the A/V is designed to pickup. I use ESET Security Suite and I tell you I have never been hacked, nor have I ever gotten a virus while it was installed. I do quarterly maintenance where I run Hijack this and post it to whatever forum is convenient at the time and have it evaluated and never have had any negative feedback. ESET is always marked #3 or #4 in top 10 lists, and I'm not sure why because often times it's the one's you all have listed above that are #1 and #2.

Anyhow, there's my two cents. Consider the following about what you are suggesting though: If you were a writer of malicious code, would you focus on avoiding the #1 or #2 rated antivirus or the ones down the chain. Those that write viruses, keyloggers, etc. test them before releasing them to exploit the public. They test them against the latest definitions of the highest rated security suites. Why? Because it is more likely they will succeed in exploiting. This is where a lower-rated security suite might actually do better picking up things since the creator of said virus/trojan isn't focused on avoiding that specific set of definitions. It's all about the mindset of a criminal. Think like one and you'll be fine. I dabbled in keyloggers for awhile just to understand how they work and I had a friend allow me to test my encryptions and binding skills on his computer. I succeeded a few times, but that was many years ago and I don't understand how to do it anymore with newer technology nor do I have the interest or time.
 
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