Vista GOOD OR BAD? WORTH IT OR NOT?

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Vista GOOD OR BAD? WORTH IT OR NOT?

is it worth the upgrade, does it increase performance, what the hecks the 1gig of ram for .. does it waste ur ram? does it increase performance in stuff
 
ok. you want my personal view on vista ?..not gonna get it.Yes its worth a try and a use but i prefer to stick to xp and linux for the moment. vista is not gonna see a buck from me..;lol
 
unless you can get some sort of deal on it, wait a couple months at least. There's just too many compatibility issues right now.
 
This is why I will never buy Vista. So in my eyes it is a rip off and not a good idea Thank OvenMaster for the article

http://www.thestar.com/Business/article/175801

"Vista's legal fine print includes extensive provisions granting Microsoft the right to regularly check the legitimacy of the software and holds the prospect of deleting certain programs without the user's knowledge."

and

"Once operational, the agreement warns that Windows Defender will, by default, automatically remove software rated "high" or "severe," even though that may result in other software ceasing to work or mistakenly result in the removal of software that is not unwanted."

and

"For greater certainty, the terms and conditions remove any doubt about who is in control by providing that "this agreement only gives you some rights to use the software. Microsoft reserves all other rights." For those users frustrated by the software's limitations, Microsoft cautions that "you may not work around any technical limitations in the software."

Those technical limitations have proven to be even more controversial than the legal ones.

Last December, Peter Guttman, a computer scientist at the University of Auckland in New Zealand released a paper called "A Cost Analysis of Windows Vista Content Protection." The paper pieced together the technical fine print behind Vista, unraveling numerous limitations in the new software seemingly installed at the direct request of Hollywood interests.

Guttman focused primarily on the restrictions associated with the ability to play back high-definition content from the next-generation DVDs such as Blu-Ray and HD-DVD (referred to as "premium content").

He noted that Vista intentionally degrades the picture quality of premium content when played on most computer monitors.

Guttman's research suggests that consumers will pay more for less with poorer picture quality yet higher costs since Microsoft needed to obtain licences from third parties in order to access the technology that protects premium content (those licence fees were presumably incorporated into Vista's price).

Moreover, he calculated that the technological controls would require considerable consumption of computing power with the system conducting 30 checks each second to ensure that there are no attacks on the security of the premium content."
 
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What do you mean waste 1GB of RAM? You should have 2GB of RAM if you want to game on Vista.

Im using it at my permanent OS right now and love it.
 
I have been using it on my laptop and pc since it came out on msdn. I have done a lot of looking and there is no process or anything on this business edition that is constantly reporting to microsoft. There was an activation that came up one time and all it did was validate my serial number. My computer works great and so does my laptop. I would recommend a minimum of 2 gigs if you want decent gaming and expirence with it.
 
codeman0013 said:
I have been using it on my laptop and pc since it came out on msdn. I have done a lot of looking and there is no process or anything on this business edition that is constantly reporting to microsoft. There was an activation that came up one time and all it did was validate my serial number. My computer works great and so does my laptop. I would recommend a minimum of 2 gigs if you want decent gaming and expirence with it.
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These parts bother me the most


"Vista's legal fine print includes extensive provisions granting Microsoft the right to regularly check the legitimacy of the software and holds the prospect of deleting certain programs without the user's knowledge."

and

"Once operational, the agreement warns that Windows Defender will, by default, automatically remove software rated "high" or "severe," even though that may result in other software ceasing to work or mistakenly result in the removal of software that is not unwanted."
 
Does this mean some "undocumented" freeware apps will be deleted on Vista? How does it determine a high or severe rating?
 
Starwarsman said:
Does this mean some "undocumented" freeware apps will be deleted on Vista? How does it determine a high or severe rating?
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Thats the thing, who knows what is in the fine print in the legal documents from the sounds of it I get the impression that it is anything that MAY or MAY NOT contain illegal stuff, but that is just my though on it. I will never trust Vista in anyway shape and or form. Just because it has not been found yet does not mean that it is not there.
 
I say wait a while, and I'll decide down the road a ways. I don't have any problems with Windows XP Professional right now, so I don't see any reason to upgrade.
 
I think vista is not worth it, XP runs great if you use windows. If you really want an intuitive 3D desktop, go with beryl or compiz on linux, they run a lot better than vista.

There will be tons of problems with vista and they are already planning a release of SP1, so if you really want vista, I would at least wait until SP1.

Otherwise it gives no advantage performance wise over windows XP, and is a waste of money.
 
i think its a little rediclious that Vista would delete anythin gmicrosoft things is a high or severe threat...sure it would be great for virus etc but really what if you had a program it didnt recognize? would there be a way around it?
 
Vista is great!

I'm not sure what any of you mean by "there are so many incompatibilities" or whatever. My upgrade went smoothly in under two hours, it automatically installed every piece of peripheral I own, and runs so much more smoothly and efficiently than XP.

As for "what the heck is 1GB ram for," I'm sorry that some people are surprised by this amount. Vista is trying to push computer users into the current age and that age involved high memory usage for applications and games. I've had 2GB for awhile and now it is paying off for sure.

Basically what I'm saying is don't complain about Vista if you don't have it, as it seems many of you are doing ("I won't get it BECAUSE..."). Unless you have it and you hate it for some reason, don't add your negativity. Vista is a great upgrade from XP and I am having no problems whatsoever.
 
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I'm not sure what any of you mean by "there are so many incompatibilities" or whatever. My upgrade went smoothly in under two hours, it automatically installed every piece of peripheral I own, and runs so much more smoothly and efficiently than XP.

As for "what the heck is 1GB ram for," I'm sorry that some people are surprised by this amount. Vista is trying to push computer users into the current age and that age involved high memory usage for applications and games. I've had 2GB for awhile and now it is paying off for sure.

Basically what I'm saying is don't complain about Vista if you don't have it, as it seems many of you are doing ("I won't get it BECAUSE..."). Unless you have it and you hate it for some reason, don't add your negativity. Vista is a great upgrade from XP and I am having no problems whatsoever.
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I work IT for a living and we have an MSDN subscription. I can download and install any version of vista I want and I have.

It is not worth the cost for the eye candy, because there is no performance increase over XP. The only thing I have really liked in vista is the fact they got rid of the Documents and Settings folder and just have a Users folder now. It was annoying from the CLI to type all that in.

Unless you really want the eye candy, however there are way better 3D desktop environments out there over vista.

Basically, they took windows XP and gave it an OpenGL 3D shell, and it took them 5 years to develope it.

SMB2 seems whack and will probably cause problems when sharing to non windows platforms. 64bit versions lack driver support. The only major difference between ultimate and other OSes is the native drive and file encryption. I don't like how it is marketed. You can run it on 512mb, I have done it, but it runs better on one gig (basically it runs like xp would on 512 @ 1 gig). MS has already planned and started developing the first service pack, in fact they started planning it before its release. It has heavy DRM support and i hate DRM. Also, vista still can't play a DVD out of the box, you still need to download codecs for windows media player - seriously how lame is that?

MS genuine advantage is going to most likely cause problems with vista. Which goes back to my DRM comment......

check this out
http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/pubs/vista_cost.html
 
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It sounds like Vista is trying to lock up your computer even more. All in return for some eye candy.
 
I say wait a few month until they fix most of its bug. I still can remember back then when xp came out, it have alot of problem with some software use to runs on win 2000 and 98. But if u cant wait get it now, since I know most of us from this board will be vista user no matter what. the dx10 just await us :).
 
IMO i don't trust microsoft with this new detection system crap all they are trying to do is get more information on what the users are doing and evenutally they are trying to create an unevatablty that everyone will have to upgrade with dx10etc. the only thing that i can hope for is someone to invent a patch taht will have the ablility to play dx10 games on windows xp see i don't really mind upgrading but i think that mircosoft is just trying to see what we do all the time an monitor out pcs and i just don't trust anyone to see what i am doing.
 
I think they are trying to get a hold of the digital media market (movies, tv shows, exlusive high quality video) in the same way apple got a hold of the music industry. By enforcing their DRM (which is already on the zune subscription service) you have to have a valid media file (paid for media file with a DRM hash) and a qualified OS (vista home prem or ultimate) to actually have full HD play back capacity.

What they are trying to do is make money.
 
I think its funny how people here think the only difference is the eye candy. I cant even list all the things that Vista offers, but once programs actually take advantage of it, you will say "I cant believe I wanted to stick with XP"

It's like staying with Win98 because all XP had was eye candy...

Personally, im glad it uses more of your resources. Because now the actual OS takes advantage of your expensive hardware, not just games.
 
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