wate cooling question?

[trs]ALUMINUM

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Hey guys im gonna be a newb to water cooling. I am looking for the best system for the money right now. Just cooling the cpu for now but i will want to get a water block for my 8800 soon.

If anyone has any tips to install, please speak. Yea so like which is the best out there right now, i was looking at gigabytes galaxy. But i am open to everything right now as long as its not past 200 USD


YES I SPELT WATER WRONG THX
 
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try this link. its very clear on how to set up a water cooling system, i found it very useful. if your getting a VGA block then you need a specific 8800 block which are quite expensive, i don't think there are any kits right now that come with one (correct me if im wrong)
 
I recommend strongly against water cooling, NOOO I'm not afraid of water cooling I have owned a water cooled setup. I found my temps didn't drop at all from my top of the line air cooling setup and my setup had cost $350. Dont do it
 
I agree with Firsttimebuilder.

I learnt the hard way.

One day, My water cooling popped a leak (It was pre installed when i got it)

And Water + Electronics

AINT GOOD.

I got insurance on computer and Bought a better/new computer with it
 
yea i thought so too,

so no one has a system, Because i want watercooling but dont know which system to get. unless there is air cooler thats just as good
 
I heard another thread say that they got the same temperatures with water cooling as with air cooling (the best they could get) and the air cooling was cheaper than water cooling... depending on what socket motherboard you have, get an high CFM, copper core or full copper aftermarket cooling. If needed, later you can upgrade the fan. Get a good thermal paste like Arctic Silver 5 High Density Thermal paste (can get them under $7).
 
peltier cooling can get you idle temps of about 1 degrees on a quad core but it needs a dedicated PSU and its pretty difficult&expensive to set up
 
no help here at all....

I need someone who has water cooling or knows about it to tell me which is a good system. Instead all i have is people tryin to talk me out of it and find another way when i insisted of buying a watercooling setup (thats not going to change at all)

Please can someone answer my question
 
chill man, only 2 people advised against it... and they are perfectly entitled to express their opinions.

Anyway, on to the thread, i used to have water cooling, it was fairly good, but to dramatically lower your temps you do have to pay out quite a bit.

I havent kept up to date with watercooling, but hopefully i can give you some info.

Manufacturers like DangerDen are pretty much the best around, they make the best blocks aswell as pumps and rads. Also, if you are looking for performance, don't buy a watercooling kit. They are overpriced and aimed at n00bs who know nothign and wont expect anything great. This is not what you want.

I used to have a passive water cooled system aswell, meaning there were no fans at all, the water was cooled in a giant rad passively. It's a good idea, but it didnt really work all too well. Temps were about the same as my idle air temps.

Zalman have since bought out a second version of their passive watercooling setup, called the "Zalman Reserator 2 Plus" or something along those lines, i hear its very good at cooling but its also a bit over priced.

Common misconceptions:

  • Dont buy two pumps thinking you'll get twice the water flow rates and hence twice the cooling capacity, this is wrong, all it does is theoretically double the head pressure on any joints in your system, which ultimately equals dead components (hehe).
  • Don't buy two radiators thinking that two rads will provide twice the amount of cooling and make your liquid twice as cold, this is not the case, yes, dual rads would provide twice as much cooling, but by adding the second rad you are slowing the water flow rates by half, so any one unit of liquid will stay on top of the CPU, GPU, NORTHBRIDGE for double the amount of time, meaning that it will pick up double the amount of heat. So double cooling time, and double heat, actually equals out to nothing, so all it does is... nothing?
  • Don't buy bigger tubing just because it looks cool. Bigger tubing has a higher capacity and hence needs a larger pump to puch the water/liquid through at a reasonable rate. If you dont buy a larger pump but still insist on buying the big tubing, then your water flow rates will be crippled and you risk overheating things due to lack of heat dispersion. On the contrary, don't buy tubing that is too small, doing this will increase flow rates if your pump can handle it, but also it will DRAMATICALLY increase head pressure in your loop. This is quite possibly the biggest thing for you to worry about.
Things to note:

  • Water and air expand when they get hot. Firstly you shouldnt have any air in a closed loop water cooling system, so we'll rule that one out. But water still stands. Your loop may be at a perfect pressure and a perfect flow rate at system startup, but after a 3 hour gaming session when your CPU has been load-ing at 40*c the water will have expanded... You do the math on that one, higher colume of water in same capacity of tubing = higher pressure and thus lower flowrates, both of which you dont want. To an extent there is no real way of combatting this. Some people say adding a proper coolant to the mix helps, but im not sure. Best thing to do is make sure those joints are well and truly sealed when you put your system together...
Tips:

  • Make sure you do a full test run over the course of a day outside of your PC, rig the entire loop up, fill it with liquid and turn the pump on, sit it somewhere like in the bath or outside on the concrete or something and just wait... any leaks, splits or problems will become aparent in this stage
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Hope all of that helps, it took a while to type up so... lol

;) dragon2309
 
i got these: they're made for each other.

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ill show you the watecooling kit i have, it is rally nice but most important it has a really reliable pump that wont die, and it was a pretty easy setup. is you want max preformance add 2 more radiators and it will be about more then 30c cooler

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835108075&Tpk=h20-120


that ia the link they are giving out the newer versions right now, this is the best pump for the money cause galaxy II pump isnt strong enough to add 8800 videocard block only the one they give you, thermaltec big water alot of people are saying that the pump failed, i asked how many radiators you can put on this they said you can put 3 radiators and have 2 8800gtx/gts waterblocks in sli as they test it. : ) you dont need non conductive coolant just make sure you tighten all the fittings in good and use distilled water if not another coolant and your ready to go : )

dangerden make swiftechs pumps and i think radiator i know they make there pumps for sure since i called dangerden when i was doing my research before buy lol
 
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[trs]ALUMINUM;701982 said:
no help here at all....

I need someone who has water cooling or knows about it to tell me which is a good system. Instead all i have is people tryin to talk me out of it and find another way when i insisted of buying a watercooling setup (thats not going to change at all)

Please can someone answer my question

I have watercooling!
don't get it, I can't recommend you doing anything that would waste your money
edit:: I regret it and I don't want someone to make the same mistake I did, antone who gets lower temps wasn't using the best air cooling available (thermalright ultra 120 with a good fan gets better temps the COOLITs flag ship TEC watercooling kit
and better temps the my $250 custom setup )
 
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yep no prob, make sure you have a big case you can easily fit in a mid-tower just need some modding, and if you order that one and need any help or questions just ask me im here to help anytime im here
 
alright this all has me confused .... I want my computer water cooled 1 for looks and 2 for quality what would you say is the best water cooling system I might buy the Zalman Reserator 2 Plus if it is truely the best? because I want space in the computer and I want it externally cooled
 
the reseerator looks absoultely sweet, but its passive, so ti will never be the best performance wise.

I know i advised against kits earlier, but its alot easier than trying to piece together a system, even if you dont get 100% what you were looking for.

Something like this would get you excellent results especially if you set up the cooling on the rad nicely, you might consider mounting the rad on the outside of the case, usually makes for better cooling.

http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/ProductInfo.asp?WebProductID=403498

Thats just one suggestion of a kit from a good brand. Corsair make good cooling kits as well

dragon
 
yeah thats in pounds i believe, i think you should get the highend swiftech watercooling they are pretty popular as dangerden makes there products, but what i also reccomend if you want super watercooling custimize your own at dangerden.com get the d5 pump 1/2 tubing and a 3 slot 120mm radiator lol
 
well I think the Zalman Reserator 2 will be good because I will have an internal and external storage for coolent but what about the pumps you did not awnser the question
 
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